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[tlhIngan Hol] Making someone do something to someone/something else
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lie_Demonchaux?)
Sat Sep 16 04:46:26 2017
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From: =?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lie_Demonchaux?= <demonchaux.aurelie@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:18:57 +0200
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I have been wondering about how to perfectly convey sentences where there
seems to be 2 subjects, such as "She made you wait for us" and just came up
with an idea that I wanted to discuss with you: using < ... =E2=80=99e=E2=
=80=99 qaSmoH >
For instance:
juloS =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 qaSmoH
> Literally: She caused it to happen that you waited for us
Or, for the example from last month (they made the dog enter the cage:
DogvaD mo=E2=80=99 lu=E2=80=99elmoH):
mo=E2=80=99 =E2=80=99el dog =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 luqaSmoH
When you think about it, in "She made you wait for us", the subject is
"she" but the object is not "you", it is the action/event "you wait for us"
taken as a whole, thus <... =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 qaSmoH > seems a logical wa=
y to phrase it.
What do you think ? Has it maybe been discussed already ?
Best,
Aur=C3=A9lie
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lvetica,sans-serif">I have been wondering about how to perfectly convey sen=
tences where there seems to be 2 subjects, such as "She made you wait =
for us" and just came up with an idea that I wanted to discuss with yo=
u: using < ... =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 qaSmoH ></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div cl=
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instance:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif">juloS =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 qaSmoH=C2=A0</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> Liter=
ally: She caused it to happen that you waited for us</div><div class=3D"gma=
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class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">O=
r, for the example from last month (they made the dog enter the cage: Dogva=
D mo=E2=80=99 lu=E2=80=99elmoH):</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
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=99e=E2=80=99 luqaSmoH<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
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"She made you wait for us", the subject is "she" but t=
he object is not "you", it is the action/event "you wait for=
us" taken as a whole, thus <... =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 qaSmoH > se=
ems a logical way to phrase it.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
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efault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Best,</div><div cl=
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