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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qaStaHvIS ram timestamp
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Mon Sep 11 01:36:25 2017
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From: nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:58:12 -0400
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On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:44 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> The {ram} "night", used in the following way is a timestamp:
>
> {ram, leghchuq maH vIghro' je}
> at night, we and the cat will see each other
>
> Is the {qaStaHvIS ram} a timestamp too ?
>
A timestamp is a noun or noun phrase that says when something happens.
{qaStaHvIS ram} is not a timestamp, it is a subordinate clause. It has a
verb, and behaves like any other subordinate clause. The rules don't change
just because this particular subordinate clause also specifies when
something happens.
But the question is, whether the {qaStaHvIS ram} is indeed a timestamp,
> because if it isn't, then it necessarily needs to follow the {juHDaq}.
>
How do you figure? {qaStaHvIS ram} isn't a timestamp, it's a clause. Like
with all clauses, your options are to put it either before or after the
main sentence:
{qaStaHvIS ram juHDaq maHaD maH vIghro' je}
and
{juHDaq maHaD maH vIghro' je qaStaHvIS ram}
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On S=
un, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:44 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">The {ram} "night", used in the following way is a times=
tamp:<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">{ram, leghchuq maH vIghr=
o' je}</div><div dir=3D"auto">at night, we and the cat will see each ot=
her</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Is the {qaStaHvIS ra=
m} a timestamp too ?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>A time=
stamp is a noun or noun phrase that says when something happens. {qaStaHvIS=
ram} is not a timestamp, it is a subordinate clause. It has a verb, and be=
haves like any other subordinate clause. The rules don't change just be=
cause this particular subordinate clause also specifies when something happ=
ens.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"transition: transform 1s ease 0s;">But the=
=20
question is, whether the {qaStaHvIS ram} is indeed a timestamp, because=20
if it isn't, then it necessarily needs to follow the {juHDaq}.</div></b=
lockquote><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"transition: transform 1s ease 0s;"><br=
></div><div style=3D"transition: transform 1s ease 0s;">How do you figure? =
{qaStaHvIS ram} isn't a timestamp, it's a clause. Like with all cla=
uses, your options are to put it either before or after the main sentence:<=
/div><div style=3D"transition: transform 1s ease 0s;"><br></div><div style=
=3D"transition: transform 1s ease 0s;">{qaStaHvIS ram juHDaq maHaD maH vIgh=
ro' je}</div><div style=3D"transition: transform 1s ease 0s;"><br></div=
><div style=3D"transition: transform 1s ease 0s;">and</div><div style=3D"tr=
ansition: transform 1s ease 0s;"><br></div><div style=3D"transition: transf=
orm 1s ease 0s;">{juHDaq maHaD maH vIghro' je qaStaHvIS ram}</div><div =
dir=3D"auto" style=3D"transition: transform 1s ease 0s;"><br></div></div></=
div></div></div>
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