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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] yIntagh
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Sun Sep 10 04:41:20 2017
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On 9/9/2017 1:24 AM, Anthony Appleyard wrote:
> What is the first use of "yIntagh"? Was in a bit of Klingon text which was recorded, and then the scriptwriters changed the English, so that the Klingon had to be retrofitted to another English translation? (This is how {-pu'}, originally intended as only as a verb perfective suffix, came also to mean "plural of being who can talk".) ({yIn tagh} as two words means "life lung")
From /Star Trek: The Next Generation/, "Redemption, Part 1"
LURSA
Members of the High Council, it
is a day of great rejoicing for
the family of Duras and the
Klingon Empire. We have
discovered that our brother did
indeed have a son and heir.
GOWRON
This is an outrage! Duras had
no mate. Where did you find him,
Lursa? In a harlot's bed
chamber?
TORAL
I will personally cut your tongue
out, Yintagh!
GOWRON
Impudent wretch.
I see two possibilities. Either the writers just made something up from
scratch, which just happened to be identical to the word for
/life-support system,/ or they opened /The Klingon Dictionary,/ couldn't
find the word they were looking for, and picked one at random or one
which they thought sounded good. I see no reason to believe the writers
ever had any actual knowledge of *tlhIngan Hol.*
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/9/2017 1:24 AM, Anthony Appleyard
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<pre wrap="">What is the first use of "yIntagh"? Was in a bit of Klingon text which was recorded, and then the scriptwriters changed the English, so that the Klingon had to be retrofitted to another English translation? (This is how {-pu'}, originally intended as only as a verb perfective suffix, came also to mean "plural of being who can talk".) ({yIn tagh} as two words means "life lung")</pre>
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<p>From <i>Star Trek: The Next Generation</i>, "Redemption, Part 1"<br>
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<p>LURSA<br>
Members of the High Council, it<br>
is a day of great rejoicing for<br>
the family of Duras and the<br>
Klingon Empire. We have<br>
discovered that our brother did<br>
indeed have a son and heir.</p>
<p> GOWRON<br>
This is an outrage! Duras had<br>
no mate. Where did you find him,<br>
Lursa? In a harlot's bed<br>
chamber?</p>
<p> TORAL<br>
I will personally cut your tongue<br>
out, Yintagh!</p>
<p> GOWRON<br>
Impudent wretch.</p>
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<p>I see two possibilities. Either the writers just made something
up from scratch, which just happened to be identical to the word
for <i>life-support system,</i> or they opened <i>The Klingon
Dictionary,</i> couldn't find the word they were looking for,
and picked one at random or one which they thought sounded good. I
see no reason to believe the writers ever had any actual knowledge
of <b>tlhIngan Hol.</b><br>
</p>
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