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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] vengDaq, vengmeyDaq je
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Wed Sep 6 04:21:16 2017
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From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:52:11 +0200
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On Sep 6, 2017 01:24, "Brent Kesler" <brent.of.all.people@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:31 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No, I read it only as "in (a/the) city and (the) cities", which is
> redundant.
>
> What's wrong with {ngIq veng}?
>
1. The canon examples of {ngIq} only give a rough idea of its precise
usage, so...
2. I only risk {ngIq} when I'm confident what I'm saying fits one of the
canon examples. I don't thank that's the case here. All the examples that
fit the "one after another" usage seem to imply "all of them, one at a
time", like checking items of a list. I think the phrase "city after city"
is less about a sequence and more about the idea that revolutions kept
breaking out *everywhere.*
{Dat}?
3. {ngIq vengDaq qaSchoHtaH Daw'mey} could mean that revolutions kept
breaking out in a single city, like the Year of the Four Emperors.
Why do you think this?
Or maybe the plural {Daw'mey} implies multiple cities. I'm not sure,
because point number one.
But it looks like {vengDaq, vengmeyDaq je} isn't working, so I'll keep
working on it.
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Sep 6, 2017 01:24, "Brent Kesler" <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:brent.of.all.people@gmail.com">brent.of.all.people@gmail.com</a>> wr=
ote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"quoted-text=
">On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:31 PM, De'vID <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.c=
om</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D"m_-1038012309084036871gmail-"><div><div=
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div></div></div></s=
pan><div dir=3D"auto">No, I read it only as "in (a/the) city and (the)=
cities", which is redundant.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"auto">What's wrong with {ngIq veng}?</div></div></blockquote><div>=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div><div>1. The canon examples of {ngIq} only =
give a rough idea of its precise usage, so...</div><div><br></div><div>2. I=
only risk {ngIq} when I'm confident what I'm saying fits one of th=
e canon examples. I don't thank that's the case here. All the examp=
les that fit the "one after another" usage seem to imply "al=
l of them, one at a time", like checking items of a list. I think the =
phrase "city after city" is less about a sequence and more about =
the idea that revolutions kept breaking out <i>everywhere.</i></div><div></=
div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto">{Dat}?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div>3. {ngIq vengDaq qaSchoHtaH Daw'mey} could mean that revolu=
tions kept breaking out in a single city, like the Year of the Four Emperor=
s.=C2=A0</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Why do you think this?</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>Or maybe the =
plural {Daw'mey} implies multiple cities. I'm not sure, because poi=
nt number one.<br></div><div><br></div><div>But it looks like {vengDaq, ven=
gmeyDaq je} isn't working, so I'll keep working on it.</div></div><=
/div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">--=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">De'vID</div><div dir=3D"au=
to"></div></div>
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