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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] vengDaq, vengmeyDaq je
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brent Kesler)
Tue Sep 5 22:51:19 2017
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From: Brent Kesler <brent.of.all.people@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 16:53:42 -0400
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On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:31 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No, I read it only as "in (a/the) city and (the) cities", which is
> redundant.
>
> What's wrong with {ngIq veng}?
>
1. The canon examples of {ngIq} only give a rough idea of its precise
usage, so...
2. I only risk {ngIq} when I'm confident what I'm saying fits one of the
canon examples. I don't thank that's the case here. All the examples that
fit the "one after another" usage seem to imply "all of them, one at a
time", like checking items of a list. I think the phrase "city after city"
is less about a sequence and more about the idea that revolutions kept
breaking out *everywhere.*
3. {ngIq vengDaq qaSchoHtaH Daw'mey} could mean that revolutions kept
breaking out in a single city, like the Year of the Four Emperors. Or maybe
the plural {Daw'mey} implies multiple cities. I'm not sure, because point
number one.
But it looks like {vengDaq, vengmeyDaq je} isn't working, so I'll keep
working on it.
bI'reng
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
ue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:31 PM, De'vID <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mai=
lto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D"gmail-"><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div></div></div></span><div dir=3D"auto">No, I r=
ead it only as "in (a/the) city and (the) cities", which is redun=
dant.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">What's wrong w=
ith {ngIq veng}?</div></div></blockquote><div>=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>1. The canon examples of {ngIq} only give a rough idea of its precise us=
age, so...</div><div><br></div><div>2. I only risk {ngIq} when I'm conf=
ident what I'm saying fits one of the canon examples. I don't thank=
that's the case here. All the examples that fit the "one after an=
other" usage seem to imply "all of them, one at a time", lik=
e checking items of a list. I think the phrase "city after city" =
is less about a sequence and more about the idea that revolutions kept brea=
king out <i>everywhere.</i></div><div><br></div><div>3. {ngIq vengDaq qaSch=
oHtaH Daw'mey} could mean that revolutions kept breaking out in a singl=
e city, like the Year of the Four Emperors. Or maybe the plural {Daw'me=
y} implies multiple cities. I'm not sure, because point number one.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>But it looks like {vengDaq, vengmeyDaq je} isn't =
working, so I'll keep working on it.</div><div><br></div><div>bI're=
ng</div></div></div></div>
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