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[tlhIngan Hol] With "joq" - how do we choose the right verb prefix ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lie_Demonchaux?)
Thu Aug 31 13:11:09 2017
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 18:56:00 +0200
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Hello all,
While discussing on the "Learn Klingon" group on Facebook, we wondered how
to choose the correct verb prefix when "joq" (and / or) is used in the
object and / or subject of the sentence.
If we have the structure:
noun1 noun2 joq + verb
Do we consider that the object of the verb is singular or plural ?
Using an example sentence: We need to learn French and / or Klingon.
1/ vIraS Hol tlhIngan Hol joq *wI*ghojnIS.
2/ vIraS Hol tlhIngan Hol joq *DI*ghojnIS
if it were just a "je" we'd use "DI-" without hesitating, or if it were a
"ghap" we'd use "wI-", but with joq... ?
Has it already been discussed at some point what to do when you can't
determine whether a verb's object / subject is singular or plural ?
Thanks in advance :)
Aur=C3=A9lie
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ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">noun1 noun2 joq + verb</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><=
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-serif">Do we consider that the object of the verb is singular or plural ?<=
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-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,h=
elvetica,sans-serif">Using an example sentence: We need to learn French and=
/ or Klingon.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">1/ vIraS Hol tlhIngan Hol joq <b>wI</b>=
ghojnIS.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif">2/ vIraS Hol tlhIngan Hol joq <b>DI</b>ghojnIS</div><div c=
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ns-serif">if it were just a "je" we'd use "DI-" wit=
hout hesitating, or if it were a "ghap" we'd use "wI-&qu=
ot;, but with joq... ?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
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=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Has it already been discussed a=
t some point what to do when you can't determine whether a verb's o=
bject / subject is singular or plural ?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Thanks in adva=
nce :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif">Aur=C3=A9lie</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
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style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div>
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