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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Using :
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Aug 17 10:08:55 2017
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 10:08:23 -0400
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On 8/17/2017 9:15 AM, Lieven wrote:
> I just remembered a canon example from ST5. Only partially used in the
> film, but from Okrand's notes:
>
> vubpu' jonta' HeSwI'. wa' vub ghaH tlhIngan gharwI''e'. wa' ghaH
> tera'ngan'e'.
>
> I don't have the translation at hand, I'd say this would use a colon
> in English:
>
> "Hostages have been taken: One Klingon diplomat and one Terran."
There are also examples from /Star Trek III:/
*matHa' DoS jonta' neH
*/Gunner: target engine only./
Ignore the subtitle. I would punctuate this as follows: *matHa', DoS:
jonta' neH.*/Gunner [comma for direct address] the target [colon for a
following explanation] engine only./
*jabbI'ID pItlh
*/Transmission completed./
Again, ignore the subtitle. I would punctuate this as *jabbI'ID:
pItlh*/Data transmission [colon for a following description] finished./
The Klingon in /Star Trek III/ is also a warning to us not to rely on
formal grammar when in tense situations.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/17/2017 9:15 AM, Lieven wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:5839a92f-0069-049a-19f9-37ad8a55b97d@gmx.de">I just
remembered a canon example from ST5. Only partially used in the
film, but from Okrand's notes:
<br>
<br>
vubpu' jonta' HeSwI'. wa' vub ghaH tlhIngan gharwI''e'. wa' ghaH
tera'ngan'e'.
<br>
<br>
I don't have the translation at hand, I'd say this would use a
colon in English:
<br>
<br>
"Hostages have been taken: One Klingon diplomat and one Terran."
</blockquote>
<p>There are also examples from <i>Star Trek III:</i></p>
<blockquote>
<p><b>matHa' DoS jonta' neH<br>
</b><i>Gunner: target engine only.</i></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Ignore the subtitle. I would punctuate this as follows: <b>matHa',
DoS: jonta' neH.</b><i> Gunner [comma for direct address] the
target [colon for a following explanation] engine only.</i></p>
<blockquote>
<p><b>jabbI'ID pItlh<br>
</b><i>Transmission completed.</i></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Again, ignore the subtitle. I would punctuate this as <b>jabbI'ID:
pItlh</b><i> Data transmission [colon for a following
description] finished.</i></p>
<p>The Klingon in <i>Star Trek III</i> is also a warning to us not
to rely on formal grammar when in tense situations.<br>
</p>
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