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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Thu Aug 17 09:24:36 2017

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:24:32 +0300
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ok, I understand everything written so far, and I will use these
suggestions in the future. I just a final question..

If I write {Dochmeyvam bIH Dochmeyvam'e':}, then would it be possible for
whatever follows the colon to refer to the {Dochmeyvam'e'}, or the only
possible interpretation of the sentence would be that the {Dochmeyvam'e'}
are the  {Dochmeyvam} ?

qunnoq

On Aug 17, 2017 16:15, "Lieven" <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:

> Am 17.08.2017 um 15:09 schrieb SuStel:
>
>> It's called a colon
>>
>
> Uh - yeah. I meant that, but spelled it wrong. HIvqa' veqlargh!
>
> In normal speaking, I wouldn't rely on this. Just put your list in the
>> normal place: *Doch wa', Doch cha', Doch wej je bIH Dochmeyvam'e'.*
>>
>
> I just remembered a canon example from ST5. Only partially used in the
> film, but from Okrand's notes:
>
> vubpu' jonta' HeSwI'. wa' vub ghaH tlhIngan gharwI''e'. wa' ghaH
> tera'ngan'e'.
>
> I don't have the translation at hand, I'd say this would use a colon in
> English:
>
> "Hostages have been taken: One Klingon diplomat and one Terran."
>
>
> --
> Lieven L. Litaer
> aka Quvar valer 'utlh
> Grammarian of the KLI
> http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher
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<div dir=3D"auto">ok, I understand everything written so far, and I will us=
e these suggestions in the future. I just a final question..<div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If I write {Dochmeyvam bIH Dochmeyvam&#39;e&=
#39;:}, then would it be possible for whatever follows the colon to refer t=
o the {Dochmeyvam&#39;e&#39;}, or the only possible interpretation of the s=
entence would be that the=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">{Doch=
meyvam&#39;e&#39;} are the=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:sans-seri=
f">=C2=A0{Dochmeyvam} ?</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:sans-serif">qunnoq</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Aug 17, 2017 16:15, &quot;Lieven&quot; &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:levinius@gmx.de">levinius@gmx.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"at=
tribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Am 17.08.2017 um 15:09 schrieb Su=
Stel:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It&#39;s called a colon <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Uh - yeah. I meant that, but spelled it wrong. HIvqa&#39; veqlargh!<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In normal speaking, I wouldn&#39;t rely on this. Just put your list in the =
normal place: *Doch wa&#39;, Doch cha&#39;, Doch wej je bIH Dochmeyvam&#39;=
e&#39;.* <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I just remembered a canon example from ST5. Only partially used in the film=
, but from Okrand&#39;s notes:<br>
<br>
vubpu&#39; jonta&#39; HeSwI&#39;. wa&#39; vub ghaH tlhIngan gharwI&#39;&#39=
;e&#39;. wa&#39; ghaH tera&#39;ngan&#39;e&#39;.<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t have the translation at hand, I&#39;d say this would use a colo=
n in English:<br>
<br>
&quot;Hostages have been taken: One Klingon diplomat and one Terran.&quot;<=
br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Lieven L. Litaer<br>
aka Quvar valer &#39;utlh<br>
Grammarian of the KLI<br>
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t=3D"_blank">http://www.facebook.com/Klingo<wbr>nteacher</a><br>
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