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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Wed Aug 16 09:29:46 2017

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On 8/16/2017 9:19 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> SuStel:
> > Forgetting that inherently plural nouns are grammatically
> > singular
>
> Is this a rule, that inherently plural nouns in english (for example 
> "coordinates") are always grammatically singular in klingon ?

Yes. TKD 3.3.2:

    Inherently plural nouns are treated grammatically as singular nouns
    in that singular pronouns are used to refer to them... For example,
    in the sentence *cha yIghuS*/Stand by torpedoes!/ or /Get the
    torpedoes ready to be fired!/ the verb prefix *yI-*, an imperative
    prefix used for singular objects, must be used even though the
    object (*cha*/torpedoes/) has a plural meaning.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/16/2017 9:19 AM, mayqel qunenoS
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP7F2cJDUbXRaY=ER8j3esRERhTjZOOMNOA7c3CFVwM2shs0fg@mail.gmail.com">SuStel:
      <div dir="auto">&gt; <span
          style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Forgetting
          that inherently plural nouns are grammatically </span></div>
      <div dir="auto"><span
          style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">&gt;
          singular</span></div>
      <div dir="auto"><span
          style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
        </span></div>
      <div dir="auto"><span
          style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Is this a
          rule, that inherently plural nouns in english (for example
          "coordinates") are always grammatically singular in klingon ?</span></div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Yes. TKD 3.3.2:</p>
    <blockquote>
      <p>Inherently plural nouns are treated grammatically as singular
        nouns in that singular pronouns are used to refer to them... For
        example, in the sentence <b>cha yIghuS</b><i> Stand by
          torpedoes!</i> or <i>Get the torpedoes ready to be fired!</i>
        the verb prefix <b>yI-</b>, an imperative prefix used for
        singular objects, must be used even though the object (<b>cha</b><i>
          torpedoes</i>) has a plural meaning.<br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
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