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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Is Star Trek: Discovery a new canon category?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Fri Aug 11 09:40:33 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 16:40:29 +0300
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De'vID:
> If I don't include the Klingon dialogue searchable by the
> translated subtitles from DSC, I expect to get dozens of
> emails asking me why those sentences are missing.
You could just write at the play google store, that boQwI' includes only
okrandian canon.
Or create a section at boQwI', where non-okrandian sentences are grouped
together.
As someone who wouldn't have learned klingon if it wasn't for boQwI', I
have to say that I wouldn't like seeing side by side, okrand and not-okrand
sentences.
Let alone that an additional problem will possibly arise:
If you do include DSC non-okrand sentences for beginners, then these are
the same beginners who will be confused, if and when okrand disqualifies
something written in those sentences.
qunnoq
On 11 Aug 2017 4:25 pm, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:22 AM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I asked the wrong question. I don't necessarily consider
>> Klingon from DSC to be Okrandian canonical Klingon until Okrand
>> retroactively blesses it, but I'm going to (unless someone persuades
>> me otherwise) include them in {boQwI'} anyway before he does so. I
>> suppose the question really is, does anyone have a serious objection
>> to {boQwI'} containing both Okrandian canon and good Klingon which
>> conforms to Okrandian Klingon but which isn't from Okrand? Such
>> entries will of course be marked as having come from DSC.
>> <http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org>
>>
>
> It already does, though. The entry for {taH pagh taHbe'} contains the
> whole translation of the soliloquy; has anyone ever complained about that?
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">De'vID:<div dir=3D"auto">>=C2=A0<span style=3D"fon=
t-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">If I don't include the Klingon =
dialogue searchable by the=C2=A0</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=
=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> translated=C2=A0</span>=
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">subtitles from DS=
C, I expect to get dozens of=C2=A0</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> emails asking me why=
=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">thos=
e sentences are missing.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-=
family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">You could just writ=
e at the play google store, that boQwI' includes only okrandian canon.<=
/span><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.=
696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-s=
erif;font-size:13.696px">Or create a section at boQwI', where non-okran=
dian sentences are grouped together.</span><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div=
dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">As =
someone who wouldn't have learned klingon if it wasn't for boQwI=
9;, I have to say that I wouldn't like seeing side by side, okrand and =
not-okrand sentences.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><font=
face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.696px">Let alone that an a=
dditional problem will possibly arise:</span></font></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.696px"><br></span></=
font></div><div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-=
size:13.696px">If you do include DSC non-okrand sentences for beginners, th=
en these are the same beginners who will be confused, if and when okrand di=
squalifies something written in those sentences.</span></font></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.696px"><br=
></span></font></div><div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:13.696px">qunnoq</span></font></div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 Aug 2017 4:25 pm, "nIqol=
ay Q" <<a href=3D"mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com">niqolay0@gmail.com</a>=
> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug =
11, 2017 at 9:22 AM, De'vID <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:de.=
vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>></sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Perhaps I asked the wrong question. I don't necessarily consider<br>
Klingon from DSC to be Okrandian canonical Klingon until Okrand<br>
retroactively blesses it, but I'm going to (unless someone persuades<br=
>
me otherwise) include them in {boQwI'} anyway before he does so. I<br>
suppose the question really is, does anyone have a serious objection<br>
to {boQwI'} containing both Okrandian canon and good Klingon which<br>
conforms to Okrandian Klingon but which isn't from Okrand? Such<br>
entries will of course be marked as having come from DSC.<div class=3D"m_53=
35619174725614210gmail-HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_5335619174725614210gmail-h5"=
><a href=3D"http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"></a></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><=
div>It already does, though. The entry for {taH pagh taHbe'} contains t=
he whole translation of the soliloquy; has anyone ever complained about tha=
t?<br></div></div><br></div></div>
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