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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Is Star Trek: Discovery a new canon category?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Thu Aug 10 15:03:54 2017
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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:03:19 -0400
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On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> This is cat. 1 for me, as the book says "translated by Okrand". He did a
> lot of work on this, even though not 100%, but he has obviously approved
> and/or vetted it.
Except for the parts that got changed that he didn't vet....
> 3. Things done by Klingonists in which Okrand had some involvement
>> (I'm not sure the extent of his involvement in Klingon Christmas
>> Carol? Maybe that belongs in category #2?... TalkNow! Klingon,
>> Festival of the Spoken Nerd)
>>
>
> AKCC does NOT count as canon to me, but TNK dfinitely does, Okrand
> approved all of it.
One might argue that since Okrand performed the play without making any
changes (except for changes due to changing characters in the play) that he
has vetted it as well. He made no corrections to the text.
However, I don't consider it canon either.
I only consider stuff translated/provided by Okrand alone as Canon. KCC,
Talk Now, paq'batlh, Monopoly, etc are works created with his input, so
they may be "correct", and may contain bits of canon, but they shouldn't be
taken as canon on the whole.
qurgh
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
hu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Lieven <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto=
:levinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
This is cat. 1 for me, as the book says "translated by Okrand". H=
e did a lot of work on this, even though not 100%, but he has obviously app=
roved and/or vetted it.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Except for the part=
s that got changed that he didn't vet....=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">3. Things done by Klingonists in which Okrand had some involvement<br>
(I'm not sure the extent of his involvement in Klingon Christmas<br>
Carol? Maybe that belongs in category #2?... TalkNow! Klingon,<br>
Festival of the Spoken Nerd)<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
AKCC does NOT count as canon to me, but TNK dfinitely does, Okrand approved=
all of it.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>One might argue that since Okra=
nd performed the play without making any changes (except for changes due to=
changing characters in the play) that he has vetted it as well. He made no=
corrections to the text.=C2=A0<br><br>However, I don't consider it can=
on either. <br><br>I only consider stuff translated/provided by Okrand alon=
e as Canon. KCC, Talk Now, paq'batlh, Monopoly, etc are works created w=
ith his input, so they may be "correct", and may contain bits of =
canon, but they shouldn't be taken as canon on the whole.=C2=A0<br><br>=
qurgh</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div></div><br></div></div>
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