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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Reversing the order of {-vo'}

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Thu Aug 10 10:48:22 2017

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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 17:48:19 +0300
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De'vID:
> How would you write "he returns from the great hall at the Federation command centre on Earth"?

According to the examples with regards to the use of {chegh}, which
are written at kli mailing list 1999.07.19, then I would write:
{[vaS'a']vo' [tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qach]Daq chegh}

But why couldn't I reverse the order of {-vo'} and {-Daq}, thus
writing: {[tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDaq vaS'a']vo' chegh} ?

qunnoq

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:38 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10 August 2017 at 15:58, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
>> De'vID:
>>> {tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDaq vaS'a'vo' chegh}
>> jIH:
>>> the {vaS'a'} is located at the location of the subject of {chegh},
>>> and from there the subject does the returning.
>> De'vID:
>>> But where is the {vaS'a'} relative to the Federation command centre on
>>> Earth? Consider the following:
>>> {[vaS'a']vo' [tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qach]Daq chegh}
>>> {[tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDaq vaS'a']vo' chegh}
>>
>> I am afraid you lost me..
>>
>> If I hadn't seen the last sentences you posted, (the ones which bear
>> the [] marks), I would have to reply saying, that at both of your
>> original sentences (the ones without the []), the {vaS'a'} is
>> somewhere else in relation to the federation command centre on earth.
>> I can't specify any other location for the {vaS'a'}, except that it is
>> the location of the subject of {chegh}, the location from where the
>> "returning" commences.
>>
>> Reading the sentences which contain the [] signs, I couldn't
>> understand anything more. In fact I got confused, because at both of
>> the sentences we have included in the [] signs, noun-noun
>> constructions where the noun(s) preceding the final noun bear type-5
>> suffixes.
>
> How would you write "he returns from the great hall at the Federation
> command centre on Earth"?
>
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