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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Misty mountains cold...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Aug 10 09:37:25 2017
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On 8/9/2017 6:40 PM, Jeremy Silver wrote:
>> A literal translation (without attempting to reproduce the poetry):
>>
>> *vI'laS HuDmey bIr Hay HopDaq
>> wutlh pa'mey jaQDaq DIS qanDaq
>> 'IDnar qol'om wov wInejmeH malengnISchoH qaSpa' jajlo'.*
>>
> That's a very good start I think.
>
> But it's not merely poetry, it's a song that needs to rhyme and fit the music.
Poetry includes rhyme and meter. I was explicitly translating into prose.
I actively dislike rhyming in Klingon, since you're mostly just
repeating or rhyming suffixes. I prefer alliterating, though making sure
the stress falls on the alliterating syllables is tough with *qaghwI'*
stealing the stress all the time.
I have yet to find a poetic form that especially suits Klingon.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2017 6:40 PM, Jeremy Silver
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<pre wrap="">A literal translation (without attempting to reproduce the poetry):
*vI'laS HuDmey bIr Hay HopDaq
wutlh pa'mey jaQDaq DIS qanDaq
'IDnar qol'om wov wInejmeH malengnISchoH qaSpa' jajlo'.*
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<pre wrap="">That's a very good start I think.
But it's not merely poetry, it's a song that needs to rhyme and fit the music.</pre>
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<p>Poetry includes rhyme and meter. I was explicitly translating
into prose.</p>
<p>I actively dislike rhyming in Klingon, since you're mostly just
repeating or rhyming suffixes. I prefer alliterating, though
making sure the stress falls on the alliterating syllables is
tough with <b>qaghwI'</b> stealing the stress all the time.</p>
<p>I have yet to find a poetic form that especially suits Klingon.<br>
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