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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Reversing the order of {-vo'}

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Thu Aug 10 03:38:06 2017

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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 09:38:01 +0200
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On 9 August 2017 at 20:56, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> De'vID:
>> {vaS'a'vo' tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDaq chegh}
>> {tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDaq vaS'a'vo' chegh}
>> Where is {vaS'a'} located in each sentence?
>
> hmm.. perhaps I realize the problem.. I read together the words {vaS'a'vo'
> tera'Daq}, independently from the rest of the sentence, translating
> erroneously the construction "from the great hall which is on earth".
>
> So, maybe, at this first sentence the subject of {chegh} is at the great
> hall, and from there he is returning to the {DIvI' ra'ghom qach}.

So you get that the pattern is {X-vo' Y-Daq chegh} for "return from X to Y".

> while at the second sentence, the {vaS'a} is located at the building of the
> federation's ra'ghom.
> [...]
> So, my new answer is that at both of the sentences the {vaS'a'} is located
> at the location of the subject of {chegh}, and from there the subject does
> the returning.
>
> Would you agree with these new conclusions ?

But where is the {vaS'a'} relative to the Federation command centre on
Earth? Consider the following:
{[vaS'a']vo' [tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qach]Daq chegh}
{[tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDaq vaS'a']vo' chegh}

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