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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Transitivity of {nay} and {Saw}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Fri Aug 4 11:03:10 2017
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On 8/4/2017 10:42 AM, Philip Newton wrote:
> Is anything known about whether {nay} and {Saw} are transitive and/or
> intransitive, or how they are used?
>
> Specifically, are they "marry" in the sense of "get married"
> (intransitive) or "get married to [person]" (transitive)?
>
> Givenhttp://www.qephom.de/e/message_from_maltz_170713.html and its
> endorsement of the grammaticality of {naychuq} and {Sawchuq} and its
> example of {B tlhogh A}, I assume that {nay} and {Saw} work similarly
> and that one can say {qeylIS nay luqara'} and {luqara' Saw qeylIS}.
Any Klingon verb that can take an object may leave that object off to
mean either the action is done in general or to an unspecified object.
So *nay luqara'* means /Lukara marries (in general, or someone
unspecified)./
I didn't doubt before that those words took objects; allowing *-chuq* on
them cliches it for me.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/4/2017 10:42 AM, Philip Newton
wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Is anything known about whether {nay} and {Saw} are transitive and/or
intransitive, or how they are used?
Specifically, are they "marry" in the sense of "get married"
(intransitive) or "get married to [person]" (transitive)?
Given <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.qephom.de/e/message_from_maltz_170713.html" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.qephom.de/e/message_from_maltz_170713.html</a> and its
endorsement of the grammaticality of {naychuq} and {Sawchuq} and its
example of {B tlhogh A}, I assume that {nay} and {Saw} work similarly
and that one can say {qeylIS nay luqara'} and {luqara' Saw qeylIS}.</pre>
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<p>Any Klingon verb that can take an object may leave that object
off to mean either the action is done in general or to an
unspecified object. So <b>nay luqara'</b> means <i>Lukara
marries (in general, or someone unspecified).</i></p>
<p>I didn't doubt before that those words took objects; allowing <b>-chuq</b>
on them cliches it for me.</p>
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