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[tlhIngan Hol] Special forms of law' puS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Fri Aug 4 09:15:18 2017
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:15:15 +0300
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There are certain special forms of law' puS constructions, which are
discussed at HolQeD 13.1, p.8-10, Mar. 2004.
Because there are more chances for me to visit Qo'noS, than ever acquiring
any HolQeD issues, I would like to ask:
1. At this HQ issue it says:
"To say that something is as X as something else [...], or {law'} is used
with {rap} or {nIb} (the latter of which implies the two things being
compared are exactly the same in some way).
And the following examples are given:
{tlhIngan woch law' tera'ngan woch rap}
The klingon is as tall as the terran
{tlhIngan woch law' tera'ngan woch nIb}
The klingon is (exactly) as tall as the terran
The question I want to ask is: Is it possible at the examples above, to
have {puS} instead of {law'}, and if yes, then how does that alter the
meaning ?
2. At the same HQ issue it says:
"It is also possible to use {puS} with {rap} or {nIb}, but that carries a
connotation of disparagement".
What does this mean ? Can someone who knows for certain write an example ?
3. At the same HQ issues it also says:
"To say that something is not as X as something else, {pIm} is used in
place of the second verb in the pair". And the following example is given:
{QuchlIj vIl law' QuchwIj vIl pIm}
Your forehead is not as ridgy as my forehead
I want to ask, if in this sentence in the place of {law'} we could have
{puS}. And if the answer is yes, then how does that alter the meaning ?
qunnoq
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<div dir=3D"auto">There are certain special forms of law' puS construct=
ions, which are discussed at HolQeD 13.1, p.8-10, Mar. 2004.<div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Because there are more chances for me to vis=
it Qo'noS, than ever acquiring any HolQeD issues, I would like to ask:<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">1. At this HQ issue it s=
ays:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">"To say that s=
omething is as X as something else [...], or {law'} is used with {rap} =
or {nIb} (the latter of which implies the two things being compared are exa=
ctly the same in some way).</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">And the following examples are given:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">{tlhIngan woch law' tera'ngan woch rap}</div><div=
dir=3D"auto">The klingon is as tall as the terran</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">{tlhIngan woch law' tera'ngan=
woch nIb}</span><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:san=
s-serif">The klingon is (exactly) as tall as the terran</span></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">The question I want to ask=
is: Is it possible at the examples above, to have {puS} instead of {law=
9;}, and if yes, then how does that alter the meaning ?</span></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">2. At the same HQ issue it says:</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">"It is also possible t=
o use {puS} with {rap} or {nIb}, but that carries a connotation of disparag=
ement".</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">What does t=
his mean ? Can someone who knows for certain write an example ?</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">3. At the same HQ issues it also sa=
ys:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">"To say that so=
mething is not as X as something else, {pIm} is used in place of the second=
verb in the pair". And the following example is given:</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">{QuchlIj vIl law' QuchwIj vIl pIm=
}</div><div dir=3D"auto">Your forehead is not as ridgy as my forehead</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I want to ask, if in this sen=
tence in the place of {law'} we could have {puS}. And if the answer is =
yes, then how does that alter the meaning ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div></div>
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