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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] ra'ghom

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Aug 3 14:52:39 2017

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On 8/3/2017 2:44 PM, De'vID wrote:
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>
> On Aug 3, 2017 6:37 PM, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name 
> <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote:
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>     On 8/3/2017 12:29 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>     On another thread, our honorable Canon master shared with us the sentence:
>>
>>     tera' jar Soch, DIS wa' Hut jav Hut, maSDaq SaqmeH Qu' wa'Dich HochHom
>>     turlu'taHvIS, wej logh lengwI'pu' pa'mey 'oH APOLLO wa'maH wa' ra'ghom
>>     bobcho' COLOMBIA'e'.
>>
>>     The Apollo 11 Command Module, Columbia, was the living quarters for
>>     the three-person crew during most of the first manned lunar landing
>>     mission in July 1969.  (NASM)
>>
>>     maj..
>>
>>     But what the jay' is {ra'ghom} ? All I knew of, was the tkd's
>>     {ra'ghomquv} for "high command".
>
>     Good catch! This seems to be a new word that no one has noticed
>     before (so far as I can remember). I wonder what the best way to
>     translate it is? Clearly, just /command/ by itself is insufficient.
>
> As a matter of fact, the Canon Master himself hypothesised the 
> existence of this word in 2010:
> https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2010/January/msg00051.html
>
> *ra'ghom  command staff? < ra'ghomquv

Since the word wasn't used by Okrand until 2016, I think we have to give 
the credit of its discovery to qunnoq.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/3/2017 2:44 PM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 3, 2017 6:37 PM, "SuStel"
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                    <div class="m_-2927959650228508104moz-cite-prefix">On
                      8/3/2017 12:29 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:<br>
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                      <pre>On another thread, our honorable Canon master shared with us the sentence:

tera' jar Soch, DIS wa' Hut jav Hut, maSDaq SaqmeH Qu' wa'Dich HochHom
turlu'taHvIS, wej logh lengwI'pu' pa'mey 'oH APOLLO wa'maH wa' ra'ghom
bobcho' COLOMBIA'e'.

The Apollo 11 Command Module, Columbia, was the living quarters for
the three-person crew during most of the first manned lunar landing
mission in July 1969.  (NASM)

maj..

But what the jay' is {ra'ghom} ? All I knew of, was the tkd's
{ra'ghomquv} for "high command".
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                  <p>Good catch! This seems to be a new word that no one
                    has noticed before (so far as I can remember). I
                    wonder what the best way to translate it is?
                    Clearly, just <i>command</i> by itself is
                    insufficient.</p>
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        <div dir="auto">As a matter of fact, the Canon Master himself
          hypothesised the existence of this word in 2010:</div>
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            href="https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2010/January/msg00051.html"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2010/January/msg00051.html</a></div>
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    <p>Since the word wasn't used by Okrand until 2016, I think we have
      to give the credit of its discovery to qunnoq.<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
SuStel
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