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[tlhIngan Hol] wikiwiki (was Re: Klingon Weather Forecast)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Roney, Jr.)
Wed Aug 2 12:57:41 2017
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From: "Michael Roney, Jr." <nahqun@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 12:57:35 -0400
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jatlh Lieven:
I had a chance ask Marc Okrand, and he said that Maltz had never heard of a
"wiki", but he pronounced it as {wI'qIy}. << this is canon now.
But note that it's not a Klingon word, just the klingon spelling for a
federation word, like {'e'levan}.
Here's the entire message:
(see http://www.qephom.de/e/message_from_maltz_170801.html)
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"Wiki" in English is pronounced with stress on the first syllable, which
has the same vowel sound as "with" or "which" or "hit" =E2=80=93 Klingon {I=
} =E2=80=93 and
the second syllable is the same as English "key." So it rhymes with
"Mickey" or "picky." If "Klingonized," I think it would be {wI'qIy}. It's
not a Klingon word, but Klingons would use the Federation Standard word
(probably pronounced in the Klingon way) for this Federation thing. I don't
know if Klingons have a similar sort of thing. I'll have to see what Maltz
has to say. (It's okay to forward this information =E2=80=93 the important =
part is
that it's not a Klingon word, but the Klingon pronunciation [and spelling]
of a Federation Standard word that Klingons use from time to time. Same as
{'e'levan}. Or you can wait and we can just include it in the qepHom wish
list.)
>
>
I'm not sure who Matlz's Hawaiian tutor is, but shouldn't "wiki" be
transliterated as {wIyqIy}?
Hawaiian has a glottal stop, and "wikiwiki" doesn't have one.
This song from Lilo & Stitch uses the phrase "wiki wiki" for those that
wish to listen to the pronunciation:
https://youtu.be/JUq8i_NGytE
~naHQun
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font><font>jatlh Lieven:=C2=A0</font></font><div><br></di=
v><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">I had a chance ask Marc Okrand, and=
he said that Maltz had never heard of a "wiki", but he pronounce=
d it as {wI'qIy}. << this is canon now.</span><br style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.8px"><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"=
>But note that it's not a Klingon word, just the klingon spelling for a=
federation word, like {'e'levan}.</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.=
8px"><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Here&#=
39;s the entire message:</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px">(see=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://www.qephom.de/e/me=
ssage_from_maltz_170801.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" style=3D=
"font-size:12.8px">http://www.qephom.de/e/message<wbr>_from_maltz_170801.ht=
ml</a><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">)</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8p=
x"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">-------------</span><br style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">"Wiki" in English is=
pronounced with stress on the first syllable, which has the same vowel sou=
nd as "with" or "which" or "hit" =E2=80=93 Kl=
ingon {I} =E2=80=93 and the second syllable is the same as English "ke=
y." So it rhymes with "Mickey" or "picky." If &quo=
t;Klingonized," I think it would be {wI'qIy}. It's not a Kling=
on word, but Klingons would use the Federation Standard word (probably pron=
ounced in the Klingon way) for this Federation thing. I don't know if K=
lingons have a similar sort of thing. I'll have to see what Maltz has t=
o say. (It's okay to forward this information =E2=80=93 the important p=
art is that it's not a Klingon word, but the Klingon pronunciation [and=
spelling] of a Federation Standard word that Klingons use from time to tim=
e. Same as {'e'levan}. Or you can wait and we can just include it i=
n the qepHom wish list.)</span><br></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8=
px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">></span></div=
><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">></span></div><div><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.8px">I'm not sure who Matlz's Hawaiian tutor is, but =
shouldn't "wiki" be transliterated as {wIyqIy}?</span></div><=
div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><font><font>Hawaiian has a glottal sto=
p, and "wikiwiki" doesn't have one.</font></font></span></div=
><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><font><font><br></font></font></span=
></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">This song from Lilo & Stit=
ch uses the phrase "wiki wiki" for those that wish to listen to t=
he pronunciation:</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><a href=
=3D"https://youtu.be/JUq8i_NGytE">https://youtu.be/JUq8i_NGytE</a></span><b=
r></div><div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>~naHQun
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