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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' cha'maH loSDIch New words and some tidbits
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Sat Jul 29 14:30:50 2017
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majQa'! My request for weather words made it to Maltz! Thank you, Maltz.
Is {ghugh} a noun or a verb? The entry says (n) but the English gloss
"vocalize" is a verb. I have a similar question about the weather words
like {vung}, {cheq}, and {raw}, which are listed as verbs but glossed as
nouns. Most of the existing weather words are verbs, so that's not too
surprising, but I do want to double check.
The odd note about {nev'aQ} makes me wonder if there's going to be a scene
with a Klingon sarcophagus in space in Star Trek: Discovery (that is,
assuming MO did get asked to do some Klingon for it after all, as someone
suggested earlier).
Puns:
{yamtaw} "line" backwards is a rough transliteration of "what's my", as in
the old show What's My Line?
{jItuj'ep} "mummy". I groaned when I figured this one out, which is the
sign of a quality pun. "I'm hot" ({jItuj}) + "ep" = Imhotep.
{retlaw} "dent, indentation" backwards is "Walter", which suggests someone
named "Walter Dent", but there's no obviously significant Walter Dent that
I can find on Google... the mystery continues.
{DabqI'} "mud, clay, putty" backwards is a rough transliteration of
"Ichabod". Ichabod Mudd was the eponymous hero's sidekick on the old serial
Captain Midnight. (This word's been around a while but I just found out the
pun recently.)
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:57 PM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> I've posted the new Klingon words online at https://www.kli.org/
> activities/qepmey/qepa-chamah-losdich/qepa-chamah-losdich-new-words/
>
> We'll be working to get these added to the KLI's New Word List on the
> website, but I wanted to get the pages out to you all as soon as possible.
>
> I also got to ask Marc a few questions and documented his answers:
>
> I asked about {jIb}, {pob}, {loch} and {rol} after there was a
> conversation about it in the Learn Klingon Facebook group. {jIb} is only
> hair on the top of your head, {loch} is the hair on your upper lip, {rol}
> is the hair on your face that covers you chin/neck area, and {pob} is hair
> from the neck down. "Arm hair" is {DeS pob}. The words cover both the hair
> and the entire construction, so {rol} refers to a "beard" as well as the
> hair that makes up the beard.
>
> However, "ear hair" or "nose hair" is talked about using {pob}, and {pob}
> *can* be used to talk about "face hair" or "head hair" but it would be
> considered very strange to do so.
>
> I asked about fronting nouns marked with {-'e'} as described in the TKD
> Addendum. Marc said that {-'e'} fronted nouns are marked and it should only
> be used in extreme situations. He said one could, if they wanted to, use
> this all the time but it would be similar to an English speaking using
> Shakespearean English all the time.
>
> SuStel asked on Facebook if {yaH} refers to any work place, or just
> military, and Marc said that it refers to any place where one does work.
>
> I also asked Marc again about using {-Ha'} on adverbs. He said that if it
> makes sense, then {-Ha'} could be used. I offered the example of {tlhIngan
> Hol neHHa' vIjatlh} and he translated that as "I speak not only Klingon" as
> in "I speak many languages including Klingon". He say that {vajHa'} still
> doesn't make sense.
>
> yItIv!
>
> qurgh
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>majQa'! My request for weather words ma=
de it to Maltz! Thank you, Maltz.<br><br>Is {ghugh} a noun or a verb? The e=
ntry says (n) but the=20
English gloss "vocalize" is a verb. I have a similar question abo=
ut the=20
weather words like {vung}, {cheq}, and {raw}, which are listed as verbs but=
glossed as nouns. Most of the existing weather words are verbs, so that=
9;s not too surprising, but I do want to double check. <br><br>The odd note=
about {nev'aQ} makes me wonder if=20
there's going to be a scene with a Klingon sarcophagus in space in Star=
=20
Trek: Discovery (that is, assuming MO did get asked to do some Klingon for =
it=20
after all, as someone suggested earlier).<br><br></div>Puns: <br><br>{yamta=
w} "line" backwards is a rough transliteration of "what'=
s my", as in the old show What's My Line?<br></div><br></div><div>=
{jItuj'ep} "mummy". I groaned when I figured this one out, wh=
ich is the sign of a quality pun. "I'm hot" ({jItuj}) + "=
;ep" =3D Imhotep.<br><br></div><div>{retlaw} "dent, indentation&q=
uot; backwards is "Walter", which suggests someone named "Wa=
lter Dent", but there's no obviously significant Walter Dent that =
I can find on Google... the mystery continues.<br></div><br>{DabqI'} &q=
uot;mud, clay, putty" backwards is a rough transliteration of=20
"Ichabod". Ichabod Mudd was the eponymous hero's sidekick on =
the old=20
serial Captain Midnight. (This word's been around a while but I just=20
found out the pun recently.)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:57 PM, qurgh lungqIj <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:qurgh@wizage.net" target=3D"_blank">qurgh@wi=
zage.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Greetings all,<div><br></div><div>I've posted the new Klingon =
words online at=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.kli.org/activities/qepmey/qepa-=
chamah-losdich/qepa-chamah-losdich-new-words/" target=3D"_blank">https://ww=
w.kli.org/<wbr>activities/qepmey/qepa-chamah-<wbr>losdich/qepa-chamah-losdi=
ch-<wbr>new-words/</a><br><br>We'll be working to get these added to th=
e KLI's New Word List on the website, but I wanted to get the pages out=
to you all as soon as possible.</div><div><br></div><div>I also got to ask=
Marc a few questions and documented his answers:</div><div><br></div><div>=
I asked about {jIb}, {pob}, {loch} and {rol} after there was a conversation=
about it in the Learn Klingon Facebook group. {jIb} is only hair on the to=
p of your head, {loch} is the hair on your upper lip, {rol} is the hair on =
your face that covers you chin/neck area, and {pob} is hair from the neck d=
own. "Arm hair" is {DeS pob}. The words cover both the hair and t=
he entire construction, so {rol} refers to a "beard" as well as t=
he hair that makes up the beard.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>However, &q=
uot;ear hair" or "nose hair" is talked about using {pob}, an=
d {pob} *can* be used to talk about "face hair" or "head hai=
r" but it would be considered very strange to do so.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>I asked about fronting nouns marked with {-'e'} as describe=
d in the TKD Addendum. Marc said that {-'e'} fronted nouns are mark=
ed and it should only be used in extreme situations. He said one could, if =
they wanted to, use this all the time but it would be similar to an English=
speaking using Shakespearean English all the time.=C2=A0</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>SuStel asked on Facebook if {yaH} refers to any work place, or just=
military, and Marc said that it refers to any place where one does work.</=
div><div><br></div><div>I also asked Marc again about using {-Ha'} on a=
dverbs. He said that if it makes sense, then {-Ha'} could be used. I of=
fered the example of {tlhIngan Hol neHHa' vIjatlh} and he translated th=
at as "I speak not only Klingon" as in "I speak many languag=
es including Klingon". He say that {vajHa'} still doesn't make=
sense.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>yItIv!</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><=
font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>qurgh</div><div><br></div><div><=
br></div></font></span></div>
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