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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] My list of 19 new words revisited
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Fri Jul 28 09:08:22 2017
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On 7/28/2017 12:16 AM, Jesse Manoogian wrote:
> >I would figure that out, but I highly doubt that would be the real term.
> >Maybe *mIn laH tI'wI'* or something similar.
>
> "mIn laH" is a GREAT construction! I was puzzling over how to say
> sight/vision (all I could find was the verb "to sight" "puS" in this
> war-heavy-vocabulary language).> tank top: be'nalmoqwI' (a calque of
> the English wifebeater)
I meant *mIn laH* as in the physical capabilities of your eyes. I would
translate /ability to see/ as *leghlaHghach.*
> >> guitar: javHurDagh (six + stringed instrument)
> >
> >I wouldn't get it. If you don't want to approximate by just saying
> >*HurDagh,* be explicit and say *jav SIrgh ghajbogh HurDagh.* Or use a
> >foreign term and say /guitar./
>
> Or "ghI'tar".
Don't transliterate unless you make it very clear to your audience that
you /are/ transliterating. Otherwise you're going to send people running
to their dictionaries, trying to figure out what a *ghI'tar* is, or is
it maybe a combination of *ghI'* plus *tar*?
It's better to just use foreign terms as foreign terms, and not to try
to jam them into the native language. It gives them a certain /je ne
sais quoi./
> Could "nenbogh nuv" mean the noun "adult"?
Yes.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/28/2017 12:16 AM, Jesse Manoogian
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:1944062638.1084524.1501215378034@mail.yahoo.com">>I
would figure that out, but I highly doubt that would be the real
term.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3546">
>Maybe *mIn laH tI'wI'* or something similar.<br
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3547">
<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3548">
"mIn laH" is a GREAT construction! I was puzzling over how to say
sight/vision (all I could find was the verb "to sight" "puS" in
this war-heavy-vocabulary language).> tank top: be'nalmoqwI' (a
calque of the English wifebeater)<br
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3584">
</blockquote>
<br>
<p>I meant <b>mIn laH</b> as in the physical capabilities of your
eyes. I would translate <i>ability to see</i> as <b>leghlaHghach.</b><br>
</p>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:1944062638.1084524.1501215378034@mail.yahoo.com">>>
guitar: javHurDagh (six + stringed instrument)<br
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3599">
><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3600">
>I wouldn't get it. If you don't want to approximate by just
saying<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3601">
>*HurDagh,* be explicit and say *jav SIrgh ghajbogh HurDagh.*
Or use a<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3602">
>foreign term and say /guitar./<br
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3603">
<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501215055008_3604">
Or "ghI'tar".</blockquote>
<br>
<p>Don't transliterate unless you make it very clear to your
audience that you <i>are</i> transliterating. Otherwise you're
going to send people running to their dictionaries, trying to
figure out what a <b>ghI'tar</b> is, or is it maybe a combination
of <b>ghI'</b> plus <b>tar</b>?</p>
<p>It's better to just use foreign terms as foreign terms, and not
to try to jam them into the native language. It gives them a
certain <i>je ne sais quoi.</i><br>
</p>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:1944062638.1084524.1501215378034@mail.yahoo.com">Could
"nenbogh nuv" mean the noun "adult"?</blockquote>
<p>Yes.<br>
</p>
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