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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] With regards to invectives
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Wed Jul 19 11:40:59 2017
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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:40:34 -0400
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:33 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> qurgh:
> > I use the general invectives as exclamations and the epithets as nouns
> or exclamations.
>
> Wouldn't be strange though to use an epithet as an exclamation ? An
> epithet like {petaQ} {Qovpatlh} {taHqeq} etc, describes a person, right ?
>
No. "Oy! Dickhead! Get off my lawn!" - {'o! taHqeq! magh yotlh yIlItHa'!}
Epithets can be used as nouns (toDSaH SoH!) or exclamations (toDSaH!!!)
when you are calling someone it.
> So, how could we use it in a moment of lets say anger or frustration,
> without referring to a specific person ?
>
You wouldn't. That's what the general invectives are for. Drop something
heavy on your foot? Qu'vatlh! Get some unsettling news? QI'yaH!
> Would it make for example sense to say: {QapHa' jonta'. taHqeq !} ?
>
An English version of this would be something like "The engines don't work.
Asshole!" Does that work? I guess if you are calling the {jonta'} a
{taHqeq} it works.
qurgh
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
ed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:33 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">qurgh:<span class=3D"gmail-"><div dir=3D"auto">>=C2=A0<span st=
yle=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">I use the general invecti=
ves as exclamations and the epithets as nouns or exclamations.</span></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><=
/span><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Wouldn't=
be strange though to use an epithet as an exclamation ? An epithet like {p=
etaQ} {Qovpatlh} {taHqeq} etc, describes a person, right ?</span></div></di=
v></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No. "Oy! Dickhead! Get off my lawn!=
" - {'o! taHqeq! magh yotlh yIlItHa'!}<br><br>Epithets can be =
used as nouns (toDSaH SoH!) or exclamations (toDSaH!!!) when you are callin=
g someone it.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:sans-serif">So, how could we use it in a moment of lets say anger or f=
rustration, without referring to a specific person ?</span></div></div></bl=
ockquote><div><br>You wouldn't. That's what the general invectives =
are for. Drop something heavy on your foot? Qu'vatlh! Get some unsettli=
ng news? QI'yaH!=C2=A0<br><br>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:sans-serif">Would it make for example sense to say:=C2=A0</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">{QapHa' jonta'. taHqeq !} ?</s=
pan></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>An English version of this=
would be something like "The engines don't work. Asshole!" D=
oes that work? I guess if you are calling the {jonta'} a {taHqeq} it wo=
rks.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>qurgh</div><div><br></div></div></div><=
/div>
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