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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] With regards to invectives

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Wed Jul 19 11:36:50 2017

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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:36:25 -0400
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Both {baQa'} and {QI'yaH} are general invectives. I would say they can only
be used as exclamations.

If you are commenting on the difference between the two sets of English
words I used as examples, then you misunderstood my sentence. It was
pointing out the difference between two insults or the difference between
two general invectives, not the difference between the two sets.

qurgh

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCller <esperantist@gmail=
.com>
wrote:

> I think the difference between them is that one is just an exclamation an=
d
> cannot be used as a part of a sentence, while the other is essentially a
> noun that can be used to describe someone, which can be used as a subject=
,
> object, etc. and can potentially receive suffixes.
>
> - Andr=C3=A9
>
> On 19 Jul 2017 9:54 p.m., "qurgh lungqIj" <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:14 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is an invective word the same with a curse word ?
>>>
>>> For example, is there any difference between the {baQa'} and the
>>> {QI'yaH} ?
>>>
>>
>> If there is, we don't know what it would be.
>>
>> Is there any difference between "arsehole" and "dickhead", or "damn it"
>> and "bloody hell"?  Not that I know of. They are just words and phrases
>> used to insult or show annoyance/frustration/pain/etc.
>>
>> What about in Greek? I'm sure there are words that you use as insults to
>> people that aren't taken to mean what the word(s) might literally mean. =
:)
>>
>> qurgh
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Both {baQa&#39;} and {QI&#39;yaH} are general invectives. =
I would say they can only be used as exclamations.<br><br>If you are commen=
ting on the difference between the two sets of English words I used as exam=
ples, then you misunderstood my sentence. It was pointing out the differenc=
e between two insults or the difference between two general invectives, not=
 the difference between the two sets.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>qurgh<br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 19, 2017=
 at 11:33 AM, Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCller <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:esperantist@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">esperantist@gmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I think the=
 difference between them is that one is just an exclamation and cannot be u=
sed as a part of a sentence, while the other is essentially a noun that can=
 be used to describe someone, which can be used as a subject, object, etc. =
and can potentially receive suffixes.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"=
#888888"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">- Andr=C3=A9</div></=
font></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div><div class=3D"h5">On 19 Jul 2017 9:54 p.m., &quot;qurgh lungqIj&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:qurgh@wizage.net" target=3D"_blank">qurgh@wizage.net=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:14 AM, mayqel qunenoS=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"auto">Is an invective word the same with a curse word ?<div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">For example, is there any differenc=
e between the {baQa&#39;} and the {QI&#39;yaH} ?</div></div></blockquote><d=
iv><br></div><div>If there is, we don&#39;t know what it would be.=C2=A0</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Is there any difference between &quot;arsehole&quot;=
 and &quot;dickhead&quot;, or &quot;damn it&quot; and &quot;bloody hell&quo=
t;?=C2=A0 Not that I know of. They are just words and phrases used to insul=
t or show annoyance/frustration/pain/etc<wbr>.=C2=A0<br><br>What about in G=
reek? I&#39;m sure there are words that you use as insults to people that a=
ren&#39;t taken to mean what the word(s) might literally mean. :)</div><div=
><br></div><div>qurgh</div></div></div></div>
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