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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mej
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Fri Jul 14 09:18:11 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 16:18:06 +0300
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SuStel:
> I see no problem with it.
You mean that you see no problem with placing the {-vo} or omitting it ? Or
do you mean that both are equally acceptable ?
qunnoq
On 14 Jul 2017 4:10 pm, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 7/14/2017 4:12 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> On another thread I noticed that both qurgh and lieven wrote:
>
> qurgh:
> > tetlhvam mejpu'.
> lieven:
> > tetlhvam mejta'chugh
>
> I can understand that these obviously mean "this list she left", and "if
> she has left this list" respectively.
>
> But just to make certain, I neen to ask: Couldn't we also write
> {tetlhvamvo' mejpu'} and {tetlhvamvo' mejta'chugh} ?
>
> This is basically the "verbs of motion" argument all over again, only this
> time the verb's object contains an inherent "away from" meaning. I see no
> problem with it.
>
> Apparently, Okrand has never used an object with *mej,* so it's difficult
> to know for sure.
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">SuStel:<div dir=3D"auto">>=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">I see no problem with it.</span></div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">=
<br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Y=
ou mean that you see no problem with placing the {-vo} or omitting it ? Or =
do you mean that both are equally acceptable ?</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span=
style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">qunnoq</span></div></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 14 Jul 2017 4:10 pm, "SuS=
tel" <<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name<=
/a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class=3D"m_7739673744926849847moz-cite-prefix">On 7/14/2017 4:12 A=
M, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On
another thread I noticed that both qurgh and lieven wrote:
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">qurgh:</span=
>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:13.696px">> tetlhvam mejpu'.</span><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">lieven:<span sty=
le=3D"font-size:13.696px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><font face=3D"sa=
ns-serif">>=C2=A0</font>tetlhvam mejta'chugh</div>
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I can understand that these obviously mean "th=
is
list she left", and "if she has left this list" resp=
ectively.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">But just to make certain, I neen to ask: Couldn'=
;t
we also write {tetlhvamvo' mejpu'} and {tetlhvamvo' mej=
ta'chugh}
?</div>
</blockquote>
<p>This is basically the "verbs of motion" argument all over =
again,
only this time the verb's object contains an inherent "away =
from"
meaning. I see no problem with it.</p>
<p>Apparently, Okrand has never used an object with <b>mej,</b> so
it's difficult to know for sure.<br>
</p>
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