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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The pronunciation of {Q}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anthony Appleyard)
Thu Jul 13 17:30:50 2017
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Another factor affecting the human brain's decoding of speech is this effect.
The engine noise of a big lorry / truck is often spelled "brrrm". If I say "brrrm", I say it with distinct "b" and "r" and "m" phonemes in it. But if you listen carefully to the loud diesel-powered noise made as a truck passes, you will notice no distinct phonemes in it, only a continuous noise somewhere between "b" and "r" and "m"; the brain registers all these phonemes at once; but, more accustomed to hearing phonemes in succession in speech, tends to remember it as the "b" and "r" and "m" sounds in succession.
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From : kenjutsuka@live.com
Date : 13/07/2017 - 21:44 (GMTST)
To : tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject : Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The pronunciation of {Q}
Jeremy wrote:
I would also point out that as the mouth transitions from an unvoiced uvular affricate to a vowel, it will pass through a velar or even palatal approximant. In other words, as the mouth moves from the shape of a {Q} to the shape of one of the vowels, it passes
through an /r/ shape. Notice that the non-existent "r" is only heard when the {Q} is followed by a vowel and not when it is final.
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Another factor affecting the human brain's decoding of speech is this effect.<br><br>The engine noise of a big lorry / truck is often spelled "brrrm". If I say "brrrm", I say it with distinct "b" and "r" and "m" phonemes in it. But if you listen carefully to the loud diesel-powered noise made as a truck passes, you will notice no distinct phonemes in it, only a continuous noise somewhere between "b" and "r" and "m"; the brain registers all these phonemes at once; but, more accustomed to hearing phonemes in succession in speech, tends to remember it as the "b" and "r" and "m" sounds in succession.<br><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left:15px;">----Original message----<br>From : kenjutsuka@live.com<br>Date : 13/07/2017 - 21:44 (GMTST)<br>To : tlhingan-hol@kli.org<br>Subject : Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The pronunciation of {Q}<br><br>
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Jeremy wrote:<br>
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I would also point out that as the mouth transitions from an unvoiced uvular affricate to a vowel, it will pass through a velar or even palatal approximant. In other words, as the mouth moves from the shape of a {Q} to the shape of one of the vowels, it passes
through an /r/ shape. Notice that the non-existent "r" is only heard when the {Q} is followed by a vowel and not when it is final.</div>
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