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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The problem with pIqaD
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lieven)
Thu Jul 6 15:10:33 2017
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 21:10:33 +0200
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Am 06.07.2017 um 03:53 schrieb nIqolay Q:
> I would interpret the difference in meaning to be that {ghet}
> is a much more specific word, implying that someone is intentionally
> playing a specific role or behaving as if some counterfactual situation
> were true. Whereas {Da} is much more broad, and while it can include
> some of the concepts of {ghet}
Yes; Remember the phrase {nepwI' Daba'} "he behaves like a liar" (TKDA).
This is certainly not intentional, and also not only pretending.
> Personally, I'm more curious about how {lIl} is different from {Da} and
> {ghet}.
The verb lIl was released for the action of a magician. You know,
magicians cannot do "real" magic, they do tricks. So they cannot say
that are magicicians (or "sorcerer", if you prefer), but they do what
magicians do.
When my 6 year old daughter moves like a magician she has seen before,
I'd use {Da}. When I see actors playing a magician like Harry Potter, I
suggest {ghet}, and a magician standing on stage does not only "pretend"
to be a magician, he "impersonates" him. Yes, he may also {Da} a
magician, but when on stage, it's his job to create the illusion of
being a true magician, he does the job of a magician.
BTW, did you know there is a big flight simulator in the French city of
Lille?
--
Lieven L. Litaer
aka Quvar valer 'utlh
Grammarian of the KLI
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