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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The meaning of {ngoy'}

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Jul 6 09:32:01 2017

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On 7/6/2017 9:20 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> There is the canon example which says that "the family of a klingon 
> warrior is responsible..".
>
> However I was wondering whether it could have the additional positive 
> meaning of {reH vum yaSvetlh. ngoy'qu'} for "That officer is always 
> working. He is very responsible".
>
> Or maybe even the additional negative meaning of {reH Qong yaSvetlh. 
> ngoy'Ha'} for "That officer is always sleeping. He is irresponsible".

You're asking about the different senses of the English word 
/responsible./ The canonical example means /accountable;/ another sense 
means /dependable./ The question is, does *ngoy'* mean both of those?

The answer is, we don't know. We only know of the /accountable/ meaning 
for sure. There has been no example of the /dependable/ meaning, and no 
further explanation of the Klingon word.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/2017 9:20 AM, mayqel qunenoS
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP7F2cKe=d-Fj7fkc3U6s24ME5M7XZyKh1ckPVuKs8v63wZ17g@mail.gmail.com">There
      is the canon example which says that "the family of a klingon
      warrior is responsible..".
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">However I was wondering whether it could have the
        additional positive meaning of {reH vum yaSvetlh. ngoy'qu'} for
        "That officer is always working. He is very responsible".</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">Or maybe even the additional negative meaning of
        {reH Qong yaSvetlh. ngoy'Ha'} for "That officer is always
        sleeping. He is irresponsible".</div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>You're asking about the different senses of the English word <i>responsible.</i>
      The canonical example means <i>accountable;</i> another sense
      means <i>dependable.</i> The question is, does <b>ngoy'</b> mean
      both of those?</p>
    <p>The answer is, we don't know. We only know of the <i>accountable</i>
      meaning for sure. There has been no example of the <i>dependable</i>
      meaning, and no further explanation of the Klingon word.<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
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