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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: jey' Sorpuq
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Tue Apr 18 16:21:33 2017
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Presumably, "bronze" is only an approximate translation of {jey' Sorpuq}, and vice versa, as there are some forms of bronze which do not include tin (and, at least in theory, some copper-bronze alloys which are not bronzes).
A historically notable example is arsenical bronze. Arguably, translating "the Bronze Age" as {jey' Sorpuq bov} would be inaccurate, because it seems that arsenical bronze deserves nearly as much credit as tin bronze.
That being said, it could also be an example of a pars pro toto synecdoche, where something large (the set of all bronzes) is named for a particular example or subset (the set of tin bronzes).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pars_pro_toto
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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: jey' Sorpuq
> Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, April 18, 2017
>
> Klingon word: jey' Sorpuq
> Part of speech: noun
> Definition: bronze
> Source: qepHom 2016
jey' tin (n)
Sorpuq copper (n)
COMPARE:
'uSqan iron (n)
ghav 'uSqan steel (n)
velSo' 'uSqan stainless steel (n)
ghav carbon (n)
velSo' chromium (n)
SEE ALSO:
Qu cast (metal) (v)
QumeH ngaSwI' mold (for casting) (n)
baS metal (n)
--
Voragh
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