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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mu' chu' chabal tetlh!

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Mar 22 16:47:33 2017

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"Sand" does occur once in the paq'batlh ({ghobchuq loDnI'pu'}, 2nd verse):

SuvtaH SuvtaH
  qamDu'chaj bIngDaq
  letchoH lam nagh rur

They fought on and on,
  The sand beneath their feet
  Turned hard as rock

Here, Okand used {lam} "dirt" -- which may be a more general term than in E=
nglish.  As far as I can tell, it's the only example of {lam} in the paq'ba=
tlh.

--
Voragh

On Behalf Of SuStel
On 3/21/2017 1:56 PM, Jeremy Silver wrote:

I too have been having trouble finding a good way to express sand and ash a=
nd bribe for example. I think describing ground-up rock confuses people if =
trying to talk about sand.

Hmm. nagh pullu'pu'bogh is actually a pretty decent substitute for sand.

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SuvtaH SuvtaH <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;qamDu'chaj bIngDaq<br>
&nbsp; letchoH lam nagh rur<br>
<br>
They fought on and on, <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;The sand beneath their feet<br>
&nbsp; Turned hard as rock<br>
<br>
Here, Okand used {lam} &#8220;dirt&#8221; -- which may be a more general te=
rm than in English.&nbsp; As far as I can tell, it&#8217;s the only example=
 of {lam} in the paq&#8217;batlh.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#44546A">--<br>
Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
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sans-serif;color:windowtext">SuStel<br>
</span>On 3/21/2017 1:56 PM, Jeremy Silver wrote:<span style=3D"font-size:1=
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<p style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">I too have been having troubl=
e finding a good way to express sand and ash and bribe for example. I think=
 describing ground-up rock confuses people if trying to talk about sand.<o:=
p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Hmm. <b>nagh pullu'pu'bogh</b> is actually a pretty decent substitute fo=
r <i>sand.</i>
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