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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] how to say "toy"?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
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> Interesting; so literally a fake [sabre] bear. So do you think one could
> say "puH Duj ngeb" for a toy car, and similarly with other toys designed
> to resemble real objects?
Possibly. You might also consider something like {velqa'} or {velqa'Hom}. P=
ersonally, I might call a toy car a {reHmeH puH Duj velqa'Hom}, but drop th=
e {reHmeH} if it's clear that one's talking about playing.
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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] how to say "toy"?
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com<mailt=
o:nahqun@gmail.com>> wrote:
{mIl'oD ngeb} is given for "teddy bear" in Talk Now.
Interesting; so literally a fake [sabre] bear. So do you think one could sa=
y "puH Duj ngeb" for a toy car, and similarly with other toys designed to r=
esemble real objects?
I'd shy away from {tu'HomI'raH} unless it really has no use.
Play, in general, is how children learn. Toys assist with this.
Some toys are educational by design.
Yeah, I wouldn't say toys are essentially useless, but I think that would w=
ork in some contexts.
Thank you!
-QISta'
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:24 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name<mailto:sustel@=
trimboli.name>> wrote:
On 3/3/2017 1:20 PM, Christa Hansberry wrote:
Is there any way to say "toy"? boQwI' didn't bring up anything. Do Klingon =
children not play with toys?
There's no known word that means exactly this, but you could come up with s=
ome synonyms.
reHmeH jan
device for playing
tu'HomI'raH
something useless
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<p>><span dir=3D"ltr"> Interesting; so literally a fake [sabre] bea=
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<p><span dir=3D"ltr">Possibly. You might also consider something like {velq=
a'} or {velqa'Hom}. Personally, I might call a toy car a {reHmeH puH Duj ve=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">{mIl'oD ngeb} is given for "teddy bear" in Talk =
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<div>Interesting; so literally a fake [sabre] bear. So do you think one cou=
ld say "puH Duj ngeb" for a toy car, and similarly with other toy=
s designed to resemble real objects?</div>
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<div>I'd shy away from {tu'HomI'raH} unless it really has no use.</div>
<div>Play, in general, is how children learn. Toys assist with this.</div>
<div>Some toys are educational by design.</div>
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<div>Yeah, I wouldn't say toys are essentially useless, but I think that wo=
uld work in some contexts.</div>
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<div>Thank you!</div>
<div>-QISta'</div>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">Is there any way to say "toy"? boQwI' d=
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<p>There's no known word that means exactly this, but you could come up wit=
h some synonyms.</p>
<p><b>reHmeH jan<br>
</b><i>device for playing</i></p>
<p><b>tu'HomI'raH<br>
</b><i>something useless</i><span class=3D"m_9091625703849708931HOEnZb"><fo=
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