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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] <> vImughlI'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Cote)
Mon Jan 16 14:13:38 2017
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From: Brian Cote <wearetheinformation00@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:34:40 -0500
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To answer the remainder of your original question, I pulled {paqvaD
qanejmoH} off of the "klingon_grammar" page on the Wikipedia. However there
was no citation given for where the example of this particular construction
came from.
QImSIr
On Sunday, January 15, 2017, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 1/15/2017 9:34 PM, Brian Cote wrote:
>
>
> ej vaj ghaH QeHqu'moH qechna'vam 'ej bI'reS Qu'DajvaD
> ghaH parqu'moH.
>
> Disregarding your suggestions for recasting these sentences
> for the moment.
>
> {bI'reS} - I was intending to use it as a time stamp, as in
> the {paq'batlh}, however, I'm thinking {wa'DIch} might have
> been more appropriate here.
>
>
> *wa'DIch* would have been better. A *bI'reS* is the beginning of some
> artistic performance, not a job.
>
> {Qu'DajvaD ghaH parqu'moH} - I'll explain my thinking here.
> I was intending to write /(this idea specifically) caused him to
> really dislike his duty/. I based this on the example of
> {paqvaD qanejmoH}, but as I'm currently writing this,
> I'm realizing that this probably falls under the category of
> the "prefix trick", correct? I was thinking that {ghaH} would be
> the explicit direct object and {Qu'Daj} would be the explicit
> indirect object. This obviously didn't work, correct?
>
>
> Does *paqvaD qanejmoH* appear in *paq'batlh*? I have only about
> two-thirds of it typed in and searchable, and what I have already done
> doesn't contain that phrase.
>
> Our first example of how to do this was on a SkyBox card, where the phrase
> was *ghaHvaD quHDaq qawmoH** it causes him to remember his heritage.*
> Following this pattern, your desired sentence would be *ghaHvaD Qu'Daj
> parqu'moH** it causes him to really dislike his task.*
>
> --
> SuStelhttp://trimboli.name
>
>
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To answer the remainder of your original question, I pulled {paqvaD qanejmo=
H} off of the "klingon_grammar" page on the Wikipedia. However th=
ere was no citation given for where the example of this=C2=A0particular con=
struction came from.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>QImSIr<br><br>On Sunday, Janu=
ary 15, 2017, SuStel <<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@tri=
mboli.name</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
<div>On 1/15/2017 9:34 PM, Brian Cote wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>ej vaj ghaH QeHqu'moH qechna'vam 'ej bI'reS Qu&#=
39;DajvaD=C2=A0</div>
<div>ghaH parqu'moH.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Disregarding your suggestions for recasting these sentences=C2=
=A0</div>
<div>for the moment.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>{bI'reS} - I was intending to use it as a time stamp, as in<=
/div>
<div>=C2=A0the {paq'batlh}, however, I'm thinking {wa'DIc=
h} might have=C2=A0</div>
<div>been more appropriate here.</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<p><b>wa'DIch</b> would have been better. A <b>bI'reS</b> is th=
e
beginning of some artistic performance, not a job.<br>
</p>
<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>{Qu'DajvaD ghaH parqu'moH} - I'll explain my thinkin=
g here.</div>
<div>=C2=A0I was intending to write /(this idea specifically) caused
him to=C2=A0</div>
<div>really dislike his duty/. I based this on the example of</div>
<div>=C2=A0{paqvaD qanejmoH}, but as I'm currently writing this,<=
/div>
<div>=C2=A0I'm realizing that this probably falls under the categ=
ory
of=C2=A0</div>
<div>the "prefix trick", correct? I was thinking that {ghaH=
} would
be</div>
<div>=C2=A0the explicit direct object and {Qu'Daj} would be the
explicit</div>
<div>=C2=A0indirect object. This obviously didn't work, correct?<=
/div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<p>Does <b>paqvaD qanejmoH</b> appear in <i>paq'batlh</i>? I have
only about two-thirds of it typed in and searchable, and what I
have already done doesn't contain that phrase.</p>
<p>Our first example of how to do this was on a SkyBox card, where
the phrase was <b>ghaHvaD quHDaq qawmoH</b><i> it causes him to
remember his heritage.</i> Following this pattern, your desired
sentence would be <b>ghaHvaD Qu'Daj parqu'moH</b><i> it cause=
s
him to really dislike his task.</i><br>
</p>
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SuStel
<a href=3D"http://trimboli.name" target=3D"_blank">http://trimboli.name</a>=
</pre>
</div>
</blockquote></div>
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