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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mutpu' or mutmey ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lawrence M. Schoen)
Thu Dec 29 10:05:55 2016
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From: "Lawrence M. Schoen" <klingonguy@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:05:51 -0500
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:52 AM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> *A mut is not a thing capable of using language. Its members are, but it
> is not. It is an abstraction.*
>
I see your point, but I respectfully disagree. Metaphorically, we treat
groups as possessing the attributes of language users all the time.
The Borg Collective express outrage at latest Star Trek film.
Barbers Union presses for more Bolians in new Trek series.
Readers of Schoen's fiction ask if elephants can really talk.
Translate any of the above or similar statements into Klingon and the group
is clearly understood to be made up of language users and no one would
blink twice at the figurative use of extending that attribute to the group.
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