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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] {-rup} or {-beH} ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Thu Dec 29 08:35:00 2016
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:34:55 +0200
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I think that since bone is something alive, and since usually it "warns"
you that it is ready to break (through pain), then the {-rup} is more
appropriate than {-beH}.
qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
On 29 Dec 2016 3:26 pm, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> nagh 'ughqu' 'uchmo' ghorrup 'uSDaq.
> because he was holding a very heavy rock his leg was ready to break.
>
> besides this example, if a bone of the leg e.g. tibia, has a large
> osteolytic area, then (depending on various criteria) that bone can be
> ready to break. it is what we call "impending fracture".
>
> qunnoH jan puqloD
> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>
> On 29 Dec 2016 3:16 pm, "Lieven" <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 29.12.2016 um 13:38 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
>>
>>> In order to indicate that a person is ready to do whatever we use {-rup}.
>>>
>>> In order to indicate that a device is ready to do whatever we use {-beH}.
>>>
>>> If however we want to say "his leg was ready to break", do we say
>>> {ghorrup 'uSDaj} or {ghorbeH 'uSDaj} ?
>>>
>>
>> How do you know the leg was ready? If there is a flashing light
>> indicating it, use -beH. It the leg told you it's ready, then use -rup.
>>
>> I think that body parts, or anything else aside from beings and machines,
>> can "be ready" in the sense you want to express. It seems like an english
>> language idea which just does not exist in Klingon.
>>
>> If you still ask how to express that, ask yourself what you want to say.
>> Explain it to me: What does it mean, "the leg was ready to break"?
>>
>>
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>> aka Quvar valer 'utlh
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<div dir=3D"auto">I think that since bone is something alive, and since usu=
ally it "warns" you that it is ready to break (through pain), the=
n the {-rup} is more appropriate than {-beH}.<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D=
"gmail_signature">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta&=
#39;<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On 29 Dec 2016 3:26 pm, "mayqel qunenoS" <<a href=3D"mailto=
:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution=
"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">nagh 'ughqu' =
9;uchmo' ghorrup 'uSDaq.<div dir=3D"auto">because he was holding a =
very heavy rock his leg was ready to break.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">besides this example, if a bone of the leg e.g. tibia, =
has a large osteolytic area, then (depending on various criteria) that bone=
can be ready to break. it is what we call "impending fracture".<=
br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">qunnoH jan puql=
oD<br>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<br></div></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 29 Dec 2016 3:16 pm, =
"Lieven" <<a href=3D"mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank"=
>levinius@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">Am 29.12.2016 um 13:38 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In order to indicate that a person is ready to do whatever we use {-rup}.<b=
r>
<br>
In order to indicate that a device is ready to do whatever we use {-beH}.<b=
r>
<br>
If however we want to say "his leg was ready to break", do we say=
<br>
{ghorrup 'uSDaj} or {ghorbeH 'uSDaj} ?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
How do you know the leg was ready? If there is a flashing light indicating =
it, use -beH. It the leg told you it's ready, then use -rup.<br>
<br>
I think that body parts, or anything else aside from beings and machines, c=
an "be ready" in the sense you want to express. It seems like an =
english language idea which just does not exist in Klingon.<br>
<br>
If you still ask how to express that, ask yourself what you want to say. Ex=
plain it to me: What does it mean, "the leg was ready to break"?<=
br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Lieven L. Litaer<br>
aka Quvar valer 'utlh<br>
Grammarian of the KLI<br>
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