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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] {-lIvIS}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Fri Dec 23 06:15:51 2016
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 13:15:46 +0200
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mIp'av:
> they won't even tolerate an intervening {-neS} or rover.
I hadn't thought of that ! however, as far as the rovers are
concerned, I wouldn't mind as much placing them after the {-vIS}.
but as you cleverly pointed out, there is a problem with the placement
of {-neS}. If I want to say "while you were doing me the honor of
being present", then is the {bISaHtaHneSvIS} correct ?
qunnoH jan puqloD
SuvwI'pu'qoq Hol tughojmoHta'mo' Satlho'
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Ed Bailey
<bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> indeed..
>>
>> while I was writing this, I knew that it would come down to "because
>> maltz said so". but I just can't see the logic of this rule.
>
>
>
> In-universe, this rule is descriptive, and might be stated this way because
> of an oversight (that the 23rd century linguist, who also happens to be
> named Marc Okrand, either knows that {-lI'} is occasionally used with
> {-vIS}, but forgot to mention it, or he hadn't listened to enough Klingon to
> discover this exception). Alternatively, the 23rd century linguist might be
> stating the rule precisely as he means to, but without further explanation
> that he could give, perhaps that he has discovered that Klingons' use of
> {-taHvIS} is so ingrained that saying *{-lI'vIS} seems wrong to them, and
> perhaps they won't even tolerate an intervening {-neS} or rover.
>
> ~mIp'av
>
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