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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Adjective suffixes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Tue Dec 13 09:33:09 2016
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On 12/13/2016 3:46 AM, André Müller wrote:
> Somewhere (TKD I suppose) it's written that the only suffixes
> following a verb used as an adjective can be the negation suffixes
> {-be', -Ha'} and the intensifier {-qu'}. I think it's logical that
> both can occur together. So I have no doubts that you can say {Duj
> tInqu'be'} with the intended meaning.
>
> But other suffixes are excluded, do the answer to question 2 is no. It
> is easily understood, but ungrammatical.
/TKD/ only describes using *-qu'* in this way. Further canonical
examples have shown us *-be'* and *-Ha'.* None has ever shown us
multiple suffixes, though I would have no problem accepting *Duj
tInqu'be'* for /not very big ship./
Although we have never seen any other verb suffixes, I would not at all
be surprised to discover that type 6 verb suffixes are allowed, as in
mayqel's **Duj tInba'*/obviously big ship/ or **Duj Dojbej*/certainly
impressive ship/ or **Duj HoSghajchu'*/all-powerful ship/ or **Duj
pujlaw'*/apparently weak ship./ But until such time as Okrand does this,
these suffixes are off-limits.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/13/2016 3:46 AM, André Müller
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Somewhere (TKD I suppose) it's written that the
only suffixes following a verb used as an adjective can be the
negation suffixes {-be', -Ha'} and the intensifier {-qu'}. I
think it's logical that both can occur together. So I have no
doubts that you can say {Duj tInqu'be'} with the intended
meaning.
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">But other suffixes are excluded, do the answer
to question 2 is no. It is easily understood, but
ungrammatical.</div>
</div>
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<p><i>TKD</i> only describes using <b>-qu'</b> in this way. Further
canonical examples have shown us <b>-be'</b> and <b>-Ha'.</b>
None has ever shown us multiple suffixes, though I would have no
problem accepting <b>Duj tInqu'be'</b> for <i>not very big ship.</i></p>
<p>Although we have never seen any other verb suffixes, I would not
at all be surprised to discover that type 6 verb suffixes are
allowed, as in mayqel's <b>*Duj tInba'</b><i> obviously big ship</i>
or <b>*Duj Dojbej</b><i> certainly impressive ship</i> or <b>*Duj
HoSghajchu'</b><i> all-powerful ship</i> or <b>*Duj pujlaw'</b><i>
apparently weak ship.</i> But until such time as Okrand does
this, these suffixes are off-limits.<br>
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