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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Something on the {vabDot}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Thu Dec 8 13:03:50 2016
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 20:03:47 +0200
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if we consider vabDot to mean "even, moreover, including", then I think it
makes sense to consider that it refers to the {boSuqlaH}, giving the
meaning "you're even able to acquire" or "moreover you're able to acquire".
but indeed, all this is speculation; however if it is an adverb then it
*has* to refer to the {boSuqlaH}, right ? it is the only verb of the
sentence it would be able to refer to. the other verb is the {Qej}, which
is entangled in the {-bogh} thing (I don't know the grammar term), so it
cannot be referring to that..
qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
On 8 Dec 2016 7:56 pm, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
> The usual assumption is that {vabDot} is an adverbial meaning "even", in
> the sense of emphasizing that something unexpected is indeed the case. But
> we have no idea for sure, since Okrand's never given us a gloss of the
> word. We don't even know 100% what part of speech it is. (Another word in
> that sentence, {Qej}, also has an unknown precise meaning, though at least
> we know it's a verb because of the -bogh.)
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 12:35 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> At this canon sentence:
>>
>> Qo'noS romuluS je boSuqlaH. vabDot tera' Qejbogh DIvI' ram boSuqlaH.
>> kronos, romulus and even the puny federation's precious earth, are all
>> up for grabs.
>>
>> The {vabDot} is referring to the {boSuqlaH}, right ?
>>
>> qunnoH jan puqloD
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<p dir=3D"ltr">if we consider vabDot to mean "even, moreover, includin=
g", then I think it makes sense to consider that it refers to the {boS=
uqlaH}, giving the meaning "you're even able to acquire" or &=
quot;moreover you're able to acquire".</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">but indeed, all this is speculation; however if it is an adv=
erb then it *has* to refer to the {boSuqlaH}, right ? it is the only verb o=
f the sentence it would be able to refer to. the other verb is the {Qej}, w=
hich is entangled in the {-bogh} thing (I don't know the grammar term),=
so it cannot be referring to that..</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 8 Dec 2016 7:5=
6 pm, "nIqolay Q" <<a href=3D"mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com">niqol=
ay0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The usual assumption is that {vabDot} is an adver=
bial meaning "even", in the sense of emphasizing that something u=
nexpected is indeed the case. But we have no idea for sure, since Okrand=
9;s never given us a gloss of the word. We don't even know 100% what pa=
rt of speech it is. (Another word in that sentence, {Qej}, also has an unkn=
own precise meaning, though at least we know it's a verb because of the=
-bogh.)<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 12:35 PM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>>=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">At this canon sentence:<b=
r>
<br>
Qo'noS romuluS je boSuqlaH. vabDot tera' Qejbogh DIvI' ram boSu=
qlaH.<br>
kronos, romulus and even the puny federation's precious earth, are all<=
br>
up for grabs.<br>
<br>
The {vabDot} is referring to the {boSuqlaH}, right ?<br>
<br>
qunnoH jan puqloD<br>
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