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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Scope of Klingon Negation

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Thu Dec 3 10:54:40 2015

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 10:54:23 -0500
From: nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
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On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:

> So what you're asking for is (chotIchmo' jIQeH)be'.
>
>
A while ago, I thought of a way to phrase that sort of thing:

{chotIchmo' jIQeH net tu'be'}

*One does not observe that I am angry because you insulted me.*
It feels a little clumsy to me (it reminds me of the "It is not the
case..." phrasing you see in formal logic textbooks) but I think it might
work when you need to negate a whole sentence with subordinate clauses but
for some reason can't phrase the sentence some other way. Something like
{chotIch 'ach jIQeHbe'} is probably the better option in most cases, though.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Lieven <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
So what you&#39;re asking for is (chotIchmo&#39; jIQeH)be&#39;.<span class=
=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
</font></span><br></blockquote></div><br><div>A while ago, I thought of a w=
ay to phrase that sort of thing:<br><br></div>{chotIchmo&#39; jIQeH net tu&=
#39;be&#39;} <i>One does not observe that I am angry because you insulted m=
e.<br><br></i></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">It feels a little clumsy to =
me (it reminds me of the &quot;It is not the case...&quot; phrasing you see=
 in formal logic textbooks) but I think it might work when you need to nega=
te a whole sentence with subordinate clauses but for some reason can&#39;t =
phrase the sentence some other way. Something like {chotIch &#39;ach jIQeHb=
e&#39;} is probably the better option in most cases, though.<br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br></div></div>

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