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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuqDaq ghaH 'arHa'e' ('ej "Welcome Back")
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John R. Harness)
Tue Nov 17 14:50:25 2015
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:50:11 -0600
From: "John R. Harness" <cartweel@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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Haha yes!
Concerning phrases like "Welcome back," it is first of all useful to
remember that Klingons generally do without most of the social niceties
that many Terrans expect. Think of how {nuqDaq} doesn't really mean "hello."
At the same time, surely Klingons can express the sentiment behind "welcome
back," and we non-Klingon speakers of the language certainly do come up
with ways to express these social niceties. Think of {qavan/Savan}!
I'm not sure what a direct translation for "welcome back" would be, since
we lack straightforward vocabulary for "welcome" or "return (noun)". How
about {qavanqa'} "I salute you again" or {bIchegh vaj vIQuch} "You return,
so I am happy."
'arHa
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> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:12:37 -0500
> From: Karen Alessio <karenalessio@gmail.com>
> To: chransberry@gmail.com
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> welcome back! :)
> (by the way, is there any way to express that "welcome back" sentiment in
> klingon? )
> On Nov 17, 2015 1:04 PM, "chransberry@gmail.com" <chransberry@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > YAY! You're back! I was starting to think maybe the pressures of your new
> > position as BG had sent you off the deep end or something! :-P
> >
> > -QISta'
> >
> > ----- Reply message -----
> > From: "John R. Harness" <cartweel@gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, Nov 17, 2015 10:50
> > Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] nuqDaq ghaH 'arHa'e'
> > To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
> >
> > 'oy. I attended a conference this weekend (into yesterday) and did not
> > realize how busy I would be, nor that we would be in a cabin deep in the
> > woods where it was hard to find internet access. This feels like a major
> > mis-step after having just taken on the position of BG, but now I know to
> > make arrangements for situations like this! I ask for your apologies and
> > also thank Qov and everyone else who kept up with answers.
> >
> >
> >
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>Haha yes!<br><br>Concerning phrases like "Welcome back," it is f=
irst of all useful to remember that Klingons generally do without most of t=
he social niceties that many Terrans expect. Think of how {nuqDaq} doesn=
9;t really mean "hello."<br><br>At the same time, surely Klingons=
can express the sentiment behind "welcome back," and we non-Klin=
gon speakers of the language certainly do come up with ways to express thes=
e social niceties. Think of {qavan/Savan}!<br><br>I'm not sure what a d=
irect translation for "welcome back" would be, since we lack stra=
ightforward vocabulary for "welcome" or "return (noun)"=
. How about {qavanqa'} "I salute you again" or {bIchegh vaj v=
IQuch} "You return, so I am happy."</div><div><br></div><div>'=
;arHa</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=
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welcome back! :)<br>
(by the way, is there any way to express that "welcome back" sent=
iment in<br>
klingon? )<br>
On Nov 17, 2015 1:04 PM, "<a href=3D"mailto:chransberry@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">chransberry@gmail.com</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:chrans=
berry@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">chransberry@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> YAY! You're back! I was starting to think maybe the pressures of y=
our new<br>
> position as BG had sent you off the deep end or something! :-P<br>
><br>
> -QISta'<br>
><br>
> ----- Reply message -----<br>
> From: "John R. Harness" <<a href=3D"mailto:cartweel@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">cartweel@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Date: Tue, Nov 17, 2015 10:50<br>
> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] nuqDaq ghaH 'arHa'e'<br>
> To: <<a href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org" target=3D"_blank">tlhi=
ngan-hol@kli.org</a>><br>
><br>
> 'oy. I attended a conference this weekend (into yesterday) and did=
not<br>
> realize how busy I would be, nor that we would be in a cabin deep in t=
he<br>
> woods where it was hard to find internet access. This feels like a maj=
or<br>
> mis-step after having just taken on the position of BG, but now I know=
to<br>
> make arrangements for situations like this! I ask for your apologies a=
nd<br>
> also thank Qov and everyone else who kept up with answers.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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