[102355] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Heghmey
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Roney, Jr.)
Tue Nov 17 10:20:02 2015
In-Reply-To: <E934C1B3-ECB0-49F0-B7DD-A36C3EC3DB87@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 10:19:45 -0500
From: "Michael Roney, Jr." <nahqun@gmail.com>
To: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Cc: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I was confused when I first read the initial message. What I eventually
realized was that you seemed to be using {-lu=E2=80=99} when you intended t=
o use
{-pu=E2=80=99}. With that replacement, everything started to make sense.
>
> It makes less sense with {-moHlu=E2=80=99}.
>
> When there is confusion, it=E2=80=99s probably good to break out into Eng=
lish
when discussing corrections. The cat died, right? There is no implication
that someone killed the cat. {Heghpu=E2=80=99 vighro=E2=80=99}, right?
>
> You were placing nouns in the subject position and then using {-lu=E2=80=
=99} on
the verb, which means the subject is indefinite (Okrand=E2=80=99s term =E2=
=80=94 It might
be clearer to think of it as =E2=80=9Cunknown=E2=80=9D). So, you can=E2=80=
=99t have a noun as a
subject of a verb that has {-lu=E2=80=99} on it.
>
I was thinking that "cat" was the object of "die" with an unknown subject.
And no, I have no current reason to believe that someone killed the cat,
though the exact cause remains unknown.
She had been missing and we found her on the side of the road.
I may have been initially thinking with {HoH} and then changing to {Hegh}
when I realized that was a better fit.
Is {vIghro' HoHlu'} correct, then?
~naHQun
--
~Michael Roney, Jr.
Freelance Translator
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Will Martin <<a href=
=3D"mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com">lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com</a>> wro=
te:<br>><br>> I was confused when I first read the initial message. W=
hat I eventually realized was that you seemed to be using {-lu=E2=80=99} wh=
en you intended to use {-pu=E2=80=99}. With that replacement, everything st=
arted to make sense.<br>><br>> It makes less sense with {-moHlu=E2=80=
=99}.<br>><br>> When there is confusion, it=E2=80=99s probably good t=
o break out into English when discussing corrections. The cat died, right? =
There is no implication that someone killed the cat. {Heghpu=E2=80=99 vighr=
o=E2=80=99}, right?<br>><br>> You were placing nouns in the subject p=
osition and then using {-lu=E2=80=99} on the verb, which means the subject =
is indefinite (Okrand=E2=80=99s term =E2=80=94 It might be clearer to think=
of it as =E2=80=9Cunknown=E2=80=9D). So, you can=E2=80=99t have a noun as =
a subject of a verb that has {-lu=E2=80=99} on it.<br>><br><br><br>I was=
thinking that "cat" was the object of "die" with an un=
known subject.<div><br></div><div>And no, I have no current reason to belie=
ve that someone killed the cat, though the exact cause remains unknown.</di=
v><div>She had been missing and we found her on the side of the road.<br><b=
r>I may have been initially thinking with {HoH} and then changing to {Hegh}=
when I realized that was a better fit.</div><div>Is {vIghro' HoHlu'=
;} correct, then?</div><div><br></div><div>~naHQun</div><div><br></div><div=
><br>--<br>~Michael Roney, Jr.<br>Freelance Translator</div></div>
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