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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Expressing gratitude
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Fri Nov 13 11:33:33 2015
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:33:19 +0200
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
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> Why would a Klingon *say* something to express gratitude?
if someone for instance saved him in batlle. Yes,indeed he could *do*
something to show his appreciation ; wouldn't he though have the slightest
to say,right after he had been saved from destruction ? on the other hand,
maybe him being saved would be considered a bad thing,since he would have
been deprived of a glorious death,but even so.. I find it hard to be
believe,that even within the context of the klingon philosophy, someone
wouldn't say anything.
> Having something written doesn=E2=80=99t make it true. Show us the author=
ity of
the source.
in boQwI' in says right after the {tlho'} (verb) translation : ".. note
that while it is possible to say thank you (qatlho') in klingon,this is
something which klingons would not normally say.." then the following
sources are cited : TKDA, TNG - The mind's eye, KLI mailing list
2011.11.07 And it continues by saying "..in TNG - The mind's eye captain
jean luq picard said qatlho' to kell after the latter paid him a
compliment. kell responded with an odd look. At qep'a' loSDIch,MO explained
that he never intended qatlho' to mean thanks in the way english speakers
use that expression.."
cpt qunnoQ
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 6:15 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 11/13/2015 10:53 AM, Will Martin wrote:
>
>> It would help to know WHERE you read that Klingons don=E2=80=99t say, =
=E2=80=9CThank
>> you.=E2=80=9D I read somewhere that the world is flat. Having something =
written
>> doesn=E2=80=99t make it true. Show us the authority of the source.
>>
>
> Conversational Klingon:
>
> Remember, the Klingon culture is a very direct one and most of the
> time the social niceties of Terrans are considered just superfluous.
> Unlike other peoples, Klingons do not use everyday expressions such
> as please, excuse me, thank you, and the like. In dealing with
> Klingons, just state your business: no more, and no less.
>
> This is not to say that Klingons never thank anyone; it's just not an
> "everyday expression."
>
> --
> SuStel
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>> Why would a Klingon *say* something to express g=
ratitude?<br><br></div>if
someone for instance saved him in batlle. Yes,indeed he could *do*=20
something to show his appreciation ; wouldn't he though have the=20
slightest to say,right after he had been saved from destruction ? on the
other hand, maybe him being saved would be considered a bad thing,since
he would have been deprived of a glorious death,but even so.. I find it
hard to be believe,that even within the context of the klingon=20
philosophy, someone wouldn't say anything.<br><br>> Having something=
written doesn=E2=80=99t make it true. Show us the authority of the source.=
<div><br></div><div>in
boQwI' in says right after the {tlho'} (verb) translation : "=
.. note=20
that while it is possible to say thank you (qatlho') in klingon,this is=
=20
something which klingons would not normally say.." then the following=
=20
sources are cited : TKDA, TNG - The mind's eye, KLI mailing list=20
2011.11.07=C2=A0=C2=A0 And it continues by saying "..in TNG - The mind=
's eye=20
captain jean luq picard said qatlho' to kell after the latter paid him =
a
compliment. kell responded with an odd look. At qep'a' loSDIch,MO=
=20
explained that he never intended qatlho' to mean thanks in the way=20
english speakers use that expression.."<br><br></div>cpt qunnoQ</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 13, 20=
15 at 6:15 PM, SuStel <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimbo=
li.name" target=3D"_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>></span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 11/13/2015 10:53 AM, Will =
Martin wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It would help to know WHERE you read that Klingons don=E2=80=99t say, =E2=
=80=9CThank<br>
you.=E2=80=9D I read somewhere that the world is flat. Having something wri=
tten<br>
doesn=E2=80=99t make it true. Show us the authority of the source.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
Conversational Klingon:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Remember, the Klingon culture is a very direct one and most of=
the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0time the social niceties of Terrans are considered just superf=
luous.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Unlike other peoples, Klingons do not use everyday expressions=
such<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0as please, excuse me, thank you, and the like. In dealing with=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Klingons, just state your business: no more, and no less.<br>
<br>
This is not to say that Klingons never thank anyone; it's just not an &=
quot;everyday expression."<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#88888=
8"><br>
<br>
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