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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] How many grammarians ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Mon Nov 9 04:59:30 2015
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:59:15 +0200
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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> He was the first human to speak Klingon. He did so before Okrand could
speak it.
how is this possible ? I always thought Okrand has/had the maximum skill in
klingon (written and conversational) anyone could ever achieve.. After all
-by definition- every klingonist out there, from beginner to grammarian, is
Okrand's student.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ghItlhpu' be''etlh, jatlh:
> > Who would be considered reasonable candidates? The list of speakers
> > I would consider to be at a strong intermediate level (from interactions
> > at qep'a', not particularly from the list) would be qurgh, 'arHa',
> janSIy,
> > and me, and maybe neb'a'.
>
> 'Iv neb'a''e'? pongvetlh vIghovbe'.
>
> taH:
> > Is that the level of proficiency that would be appropriate?
>
> I feel a little uncomfortable judging proficiency levels of active
> speakers in a public forum, so I'll respond to you off-list on this.
>
> taH:
> > I arrived on the list about when tereS was appointed BG, so I haven't
> > really seen the role in action, given the paucity of beginners at the
> time,
> > and, except for janSIy, I think the others I mentioned arrived on scene
> > later than I did, so I don't know if people understand if it would be
> > suitable for them to volunteer, or what exactly they would be
> > volunteering for.
>
> An unfortunate consequence of not having a BG for so long. Part of the
> BG's role was to conduct a handover of sorts to their successor. When I
> went through, this involved the BG-elect writing responses to a couple of
> beginners' posts and sending them first to the incumbent BG off-list, so
> that the incumbent BG could look at them and give the BG-elect advice as to
> how well they explained their corrections and so forth, but more
> importantly, advice as to how their tone would come across to a beginning
> learner. I really don't have the spoons at the moment to take on the BG
> role myself, but would certainly be happy to play that mentoring role.
>
> QeS 'utlh
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>> He was the first human to speak Klingon. He did =
so before Okrand could speak it.<br><br></div>how is this possible ? I alwa=
ys thought Okrand has/had the maximum skill in klingon (written and convers=
ational) anyone could ever achieve.. After all -by definition- every klingo=
nist out there, from beginner to grammarian, is Okrand's student.<br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 9=
, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Rohan Fenwick <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:qe=
slagh@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">qeslagh@hotmail.com</a>></span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir=3D"ltr">ghItlhpu' be''etlh, jatlh:<span class=3D"=
"><br>> Who would be considered reasonable candidates?=C2=A0 The list of=
speakers<br>> I=20
would consider to be at a strong intermediate level (from interactions<br>&=
gt; at qep'a', not particularly from the list) would be qurgh, '=
;arHa',=20
janSIy,<br>> and me, and maybe neb'a'.<br><br></span>'Iv neb=
'a''e'? pongvetlh vIghovbe'.<br><br>taH:<span class=3D"=
"><br>> Is that the level of proficiency that
would be appropriate?<br><br></span>I feel a little uncomfortable judging =
proficiency levels of active speakers in a public forum, so I'll respon=
d to you off-list on this.<br><div><br></div><div>taH:<span class=3D""><br>=
> I arrived on the list about=20
when tereS was appointed BG, so I haven't<br>> really seen the role =
in=20
action, given the paucity of beginners at the time,<br>> and, except for=
=20
janSIy, I think the others I mentioned arrived on scene<br>> later than =
I=20
did, so I don't know if people understand if it would be<br>> suitab=
le for=20
them to volunteer, or what exactly they would be<br>> volunteering for.<=
br><br></span>An unfortunate consequence of not having a BG for so long. Pa=
rt of the BG's role was to conduct a handover of sorts to their success=
or. When I went through, this involved the BG-elect writing responses to a =
couple of beginners' posts and sending them first to the incumbent BG o=
ff-list, so that the incumbent BG could look at them and give the BG-elect =
advice as to how well they explained their corrections and so forth, but mo=
re importantly, advice as to how their tone would come across to a beginnin=
g learner. I really don't have the spoons at the moment to take on the =
BG role myself, but would certainly be happy to play that mentoring role.<b=
r></div><br>QeS 'utlh<br> </div></div>
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