[101852] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Multiple Adverbials (was Re: Piraha)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick)
Tue Nov 3 08:42:27 2015
From: Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 23:42:11 +1000
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ghItlhpu' qunnoQ=2C jatlh:
> this may be like an tiny/insignificant volkswagen beetle=2C trying to
> take part at a ferrari/lamborghini exhibition=2C but still I would like
> to ask why we said {vagh rep ret} instead of {vagh repmey ret}..
not yItlhobvIp! (Never be afraid to ask questions!)
Firstly=2C remember that a Klingon noun without an overt plural suffix (tha=
t is=2C {-pu'}=2C {-Du'}=2C or {-mey}) can pretty much always be either sin=
gular or plural depending on context (TKD section 3.3.2=2C p.21-22). Then c=
heck out TKD section 5.2=2C on "Numbers". On p.54=2C it says: "The plural s=
uffixes ({-pu'=2C -mey}) are not necessary when a number is used." In other=
words=2C either {loS puqpu'} or {loS puq} is okay for "four children". In =
the same way=2C {vagh rep ret} means the same thing as {vagh repmey ret}. B=
ecause there's an explicit numeral telling you how many things there are (i=
n this case=2C five)=2C the plural suffix isn't necessary.
Dayaj'a'?
QeS 'utlh
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br>>=3B take part at a ferrari/lamborghini exhibition=2C but still I woul=
d like<br>>=3B to ask why we said {vagh rep ret} instead of {vagh repmey =
ret}..<br><br>not yItlhobvIp! (Never be afraid to ask questions!)<br><br>Fi=
rstly=2C remember that a Klingon noun without an overt plural suffix (that =
is=2C {-pu'}=2C {-Du'}=2C or {-mey}) can pretty much always be either singu=
lar or plural depending on context (TKD section 3.3.2=2C p.21-22). Then che=
ck out TKD section 5.2=2C on "Numbers". On p.54=2C it says: "The plural suf=
fixes ({-pu'=2C -mey}) are not necessary when a number is used." In other w=
ords=2C either {loS puqpu'} or {loS puq} is okay for "four children". In th=
e same way=2C {vagh rep ret} means the same thing as {vagh repmey ret}. Bec=
ause there's an explicit numeral telling you how many things there are (in =
this case=2C five)=2C the plural suffix isn't necessary.<br><br>Dayaj'a'?<b=
r><br>QeS 'utlh<br> </div></body>
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