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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] On the history of KLI
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Fri Oct 30 13:15:01 2015
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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:14:13 -0400
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:49 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> i just read this link,and unfortunately it doesn't provide direct answers
> - or any answers at all - to the aforementioned questions. thank you very
> much though !
>
It seemed to answer your first question:
how long after the creation of klingon language was the KLI formed ?
The language (dictionary) came out in 1985 and the KLI started in 1992, so
that would be 1992-1985 = 7 years after
>
> from what i read two more questions arose.
>
> it mentioned an opera 'u' written and performed in klingon. where can i
> find the text of this opera ?
>
The text of the opera 'u' became the text of the paq'batlh. That's the
closest you'll be able to get right now.
>>> did okrand know any of the founding members of KLI,prior to the creation
>>> of the language ?
>>>
>>
Only Lawrence can probably answer that question as he was the only founding
member.
> has any of the founding members of KLI created vocabulary and/or
>>> grammar,which is considered canon ?
>>>
>>
No. Only Okrand has created vocabulary and/or grammar that is considered
canon. Although he may have based his ideas on other people's
ideas/requests.
>
>>> with regards to the KLI logo/emblem. (the spiked wheel,with the three
>>> blades within it..)
>>>
>>> who designed it ?
>>> how long has it been the logo of KLI ?
>>>
>>
For as long as I can remember (20+ years?)
> has Okrand had anything to do with its creation ?
>>>
>>
Unlikely.
qurgh
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ri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:49 PM, qunnoQ HoD <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m=
ailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></span>=
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-st=
yle:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>i just read thi=
s link,and unfortunately it doesn't provide direct answers - or any ans=
wers at all - to the aforementioned questions. thank you very much though !=
<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It seemed to a=
nswer your first question:</div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rg=
b(80,0,80)">how long after the creation of klingon language was the KLI for=
med ?<br></span><br>The language (dictionary) came out in=C2=A0<span style=
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rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Ubuntu,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18.5714=
px">1992, so that would be 1992-1985 =3D 7 years after</span></div><div><br=
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px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);b=
order-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><b=
r></div>from what i read two more questions arose.<br><br></div>it mentione=
d an opera 'u' written and performed in klingon. where can i find t=
he text of this opera ?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The=
text of the opera 'u' became the text of the paq'batlh. That&#=
39;s the closest you'll be able to get right now.=C2=A0</div><div><br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
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margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,20=
4,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br>did okrand know any of the founding members of KLI,prior to the creati=
on of the language ?<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockq=
uote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Only Lawrence=
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=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:r=
gb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D""><=
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ng-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockqu=
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th:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">has any of the founding members of KLI =
created vocabulary and/or grammar,which is considered canon ?<br></div></di=
v></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blo=
ckquote><div><br>No. Only Okrand has created vocabulary and/or grammar that=
is considered canon. Although he may have based his ideas on other people&=
#39;s ideas/requests.<br>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(2=
04,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockqu=
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eft:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1=
px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>with regards to the KLI logo/emblem. (t=
he spiked wheel,with the three blades within it..)<br><br>who designed it ?=
<br>how long has it been the logo of KLI ?<br></div></div></div></blockquot=
e></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></=
div><div>For as long as I can remember (20+ years?)</div><div><br></div><di=
v>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left=
-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-colo=
r:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rg=
b(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">has Okrand had anything to do with its creation ?</div></div></div=
></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote=
><div><br></div><div>Unlikely.</div><div><br></div><div>qurgh</div></div></=
div></div>
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