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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Genesis
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Roney, Jr.)
Thu Oct 29 17:00:46 2015
In-Reply-To: <CALPi+eSwYnsndd3aH2mLMFcWM9npF3Mkz8+kFSMGEVKMzSADvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 17:00:30 -0400
From: "Michael Roney, Jr." <nahqun@gmail.com>
Cc: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:56 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> i'm not certain that i remember correctly,but i think i had read
somewhere that Genesis (the Bible genesis) has been translated in Klingon.
(or at least some of chapters of it)
>>
>> i would like to ask if this is true,and if it is where one can find it
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:07 PM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
>
> I don't know about Genesis, but the KLI's Bible Translation Project (now
the Religious Text Translation Project) has some translations listed in the
KLI Wiki:
>
> http://www.kli.org/wiki/Religious_Text_Translation_Project
>
For those that don't know, I'm coordinating the Religious Text Translation
Project (RTTP).
I have not come across a translation of Genesis, which means that it's open
for translation; volunteer today.
The rumors of its completion don't surprise me as the internet is convinced
the entire Bible has been translated.
We do, however, have the following:
TKD gives us:
{qa'vam} n. Genesis
Festival of the Spoken Nerd gives us:
The Big Bang -- meaning the start of the universe -- is, as you once
hypothesized, {qa'vam}, the word used by Klingons for the Genesis
device. {qa'vam} is perhaps best defined as "origin of everything" or
"start of it all" or the like. Maltz said you could say {qa'vam nger}
"Big Bang Theory," but he thought that was weird -- the start of it
all isn't a theory, he said -- it's just the start of it all. If one
thinks the start of it all was a big explosion and that's a theory,
then {qa'vam nger} could mean "the theory of how everything began,"
but the Klingon phrase doesn't contain the notion of explosion. For
the TV Show -- whether to translate it or use the English -- that's up
to you.
~naHQun
--
~Michael Roney, Jr.
Freelance Translator
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<div dir=3D"ltr">> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:56 PM, qunnoQ HoD <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>=
;<br>>> i'm not certain that i remember correctly,but i think i h=
ad read somewhere that Genesis (the Bible genesis) has been translated in K=
lingon. (or at least some of chapters of it)<br>>><br>>> i woul=
d like to ask if this is true,and if it is where one can find it<br><br>On =
Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:07 PM, qurgh lungqIj <<a href=3D"mailto:qurgh@wiz=
age.net">qurgh@wizage.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> I don't know a=
bout Genesis, but the KLI's Bible Translation Project (now the Religiou=
s Text Translation Project) has some translations listed in the KLI Wiki:<b=
r>><br>> <a href=3D"http://www.kli.org/wiki/Religious_Text_Translatio=
n_Project">http://www.kli.org/wiki/Religious_Text_Translation_Project</a><b=
r>><br><br>For those that don't know, I'm coordinating the Relig=
ious Text Translation Project (RTTP).<div>I have not come across a translat=
ion of Genesis, which means that it's open for translation; volunteer t=
oday.</div><div>The rumors of its completion don't surprise me as the i=
nternet is convinced the entire Bible has been translated.</div><div><br></=
div><div>We do, however, have the following:</div><div><br>TKD gives us:</d=
iv><div>=C2=A0{qa'vam} n. Genesis</div><div><br></div><div>Festival of =
the Spoken Nerd gives us:</div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.8px">The Big Bang -- meaning the start of the universe -- is, as you on=
ce</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">hy=
pothesized, {</span><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size:12.8px;background-c=
olor:rgb(255,255,255)">qa</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">'</spa=
n><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,2=
55)">vam</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">}, the word used by Klingon=
s for the Genesis</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-=
size:12.8px">device.=C2=A0 {</span><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size:12.8=
px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">qa</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
8px">'</span><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size:12.8px;background-colo=
r:rgb(255,255,255)">vam</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">} is perhaps=
best defined as "origin of everything" or</span><br style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">"start of it all"=
or the like.=C2=A0 Maltz said you could say {</span><span class=3D"" style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">qa</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.8px">'</span><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size:12.8=
px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">vam</span><span style=3D"font-size:12=
.8px">=C2=A0nger}</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-=
size:12.8px">"Big Bang Theory," but he thought that was weird -- =
the start of it</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.8px">all isn't a theory, he said -- it's just the start of it=
all.=C2=A0 If one</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.8px">thinks the start of it all was a big explosion and that's=
a theory,</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12=
.8px">then {</span><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size:12.8px;background-co=
lor:rgb(255,255,255)">qa</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">'</span=
><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,25=
5)">vam</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A0nger} could mean "=
;the theory of how everything began,"</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.=
8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">but the Klingon phrase doesn't co=
ntain the notion of explosion.=C2=A0 For</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8p=
x"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">the TV Show -- whether to translate it =
or use the English -- that's up</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.8px">to you.</span><br><br>~naHQun<br><br>--<br>~=
Michael Roney, Jr.<br>Freelance Translator</div></div>
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