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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Things missing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Tue Oct 27 12:09:46 2015
From: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:09:29 -0400
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I find it difficult to believe that with all the computer geeks in this =
group, nobody can read the original files. I would find it easier to =
believe that a certain person may have lost them.
I have all of the HolQeD volumes, and if I could get Lawrence=E2=80=99s =
permission, I could scan them and provide them as .pdf files. It would =
take a while, and if someone else also has all the volumes and would be =
happier with the project, they are welcome to it. If I am to be a hero =
for this project, know that the role would be that of a reluctant hero, =
not a possessive, egocentric, glory-seeking fanatic.
If such a possessive, egocentric, glory-seeking fanatic is out there, =
here=E2=80=99s your opportunity. Knock yourself out.
If Lawrence still reads this list, hey, Lawrence, is it okay for me to =
do this with copyright and all?
If he doesn=E2=80=99t still read it, could someone who does get in touch =
with him and ask him?
pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:51 AM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
>=20
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:53 AM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com =
<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote:
> i believe 3 things are missing,which if existed they would be of great =
help to Klingon as a language. I realize that for copyright reasons =
mainly,it would be impossible for these 3 things to actually take place =
but anyway,here goes..
>=20
> 1. KLI should publish all HolQeD as a book/books and make it available =
through every major bookstore. The only experience i had of HolQeD was =
through the "grammarian's desk", which i liked so much that it made me =
sad to think that there were whole issues of HolQeD i could not acquire. =
Let alone the fact that i searched for months until i finally found it.
>=20
> There's been some talk about creating digital versions of HolQeD, but =
AFAIK there are certain barriers that are hard to cross. One of the big =
ones is that the original files for the older HolQeDmey are either =
unavailable or in a format that can no longer be read by modern =
programs. There are a couple of the final issues of HolQeD on the KLI =
website for Members to download.
>=20
> As for bringing it back from the dead, the main issue there is =
content. Most of the articles that could be written have been written, =
so it would be hard to continuously find new content.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> 2. Three books should be published ; Beginner - Intermediate - =
Advanced. Each should focus on grammar having as many exercises as =
possible,for the student to practice his individual skills depending on =
his level. And each of these books should be as many pages as =
possible,so as to keep the reader interested and gradually working his =
way to higher levels
>=20
> These would probably have to be made by Paramount/CBS/Okrand, but =
there's little profit to be gained in them so it's unlikely. The KLI's =
website has the first part of a course on it that will teach you the =
language. Have you tried that yet?=20
>=20
> qurgh
>=20
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">I find it difficult to believe that with all =
the computer geeks in this group, nobody can read the original files. I =
would find it easier to believe that a certain person may have lost =
them.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I have =
all of the HolQeD volumes, and if I could get Lawrence=E2=80=99s =
permission, I could scan them and provide them as .pdf files. It would =
take a while, and if someone else also has all the volumes and would be =
happier with the project, they are welcome to it. If I am to be a hero =
for this project, know that the role would be that of a reluctant hero, =
not a possessive, egocentric, glory-seeking fanatic.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If such a possessive, =
egocentric, glory-seeking fanatic is out there, here=E2=80=99s your =
opportunity. Knock yourself out.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If Lawrence still reads this list, hey, =
Lawrence, is it okay for me to do this with copyright and all?</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If he doesn=E2=80=99t =
still read it, could someone who does get in touch with him and ask =
him?</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:51 AM, qurgh lungqIj <<a =
href=3D"mailto:qurgh@wizage.net" class=3D"">qurgh@wizage.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:53 AM, qunnoQ HoD <span =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">i believe 3 things are missing,which if existed they would be =
of great help to Klingon as a language. I realize that for copyright =
reasons mainly,it would be impossible for these 3 things to actually =
take place but anyway,here goes..<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. KLI =
should publish all HolQeD as a book/books and make it available through =
every major bookstore. The only experience i had of HolQeD was through =
the "grammarian's desk", which i liked so much that it made me sad to =
think that there were whole issues of HolQeD i could not acquire. Let =
alone the fact that i searched for months until i finally found it.<br =
class=3D""></div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">There's been some talk about creating digital versions of =
HolQeD, but AFAIK there are certain barriers that are hard to cross. One =
of the big ones is that the original files for the older HolQeDmey are =
either unavailable or in a format that can no longer be read by modern =
programs. There are a couple of the final issues of HolQeD on the KLI =
website for Members to download.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">As for bringing it back from the dead, =
the main issue there is content. Most of the articles that could be =
written have been written, so it would be hard to continuously find new =
content.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""> </div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">2. Three books should be published ; Beginner =
- Intermediate - Advanced. Each should focus on grammar having as many =
exercises as possible,for the student to practice his individual skills =
depending on his level. And each of these books should be as many pages =
as possible,so as to keep the reader interested and gradually working =
his way to higher levels<br class=3D""></div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">These would probably =
have to be made by Paramount/CBS/Okrand, but there's little profit to be =
gained in them so it's unlikely. The KLI's website has the first part of =
a course on it that will teach you the language. Have you tried that =
yet? </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">qurgh</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></div>
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