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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: wovmoHwI'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Sat Oct 24 01:23:44 2015
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:23:29 +0300
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
To: "lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh" <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Cc: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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> To keep you (or in the case of publicly searchable records, others) from
using the wrong word, you add a note.
qurgh went with "lamp".
De'vID went with "device".
ok,this is a perfect explanation. now,i understand. thanks
> Since we are generally using databases for this function, I=E2=80=99d jus=
t like
to point out that we can put personal annotations into fields OTHER than
the definition
i believe this would be great,especially for beginners who struggle to
figure out how things work ; furthermore it would help people avoid the
pitfall of learning something "corrupt",which would be of great difficulty
to "unlearn" later on. I had a teacher in university,who would constantly
remind us that "the human brain has no trouble learning something new,no
matter how difficult it may be. still,it has the greatest trouble of
changing something it has already learned".
qunnoQ
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:46 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <
lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since we are generally using databases for this function, I=E2=80=99d jus=
t like to
> point out that we can put personal annotations into fields OTHER than the
> definition, and we=E2=80=99ll be less likely to corrupt the data. Normal
> dictionaries site sources. It=E2=80=99s the only way to resolve eventual =
arguments
> about definitions for a canon-based language.
>
> Look in the archives for the origin of the Klingon word for =E2=80=9Carmp=
it=E2=80=9D, if
> you want to know why this is important.
>
> lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh
> Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably
>
>
>
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:12 AM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
>
> > The canon is the same for everyone, although everyone's interpretations
> of them might not be identical.
> >
>
> I think there's a divide on whether or not the paq'batlh is canon. Perhap=
s
> even Talk Now.
> Besides those, I think we're all on the same page.
>
> >There's also the possibility of errors or omissions in dictionaries
> people compile themselves due to simple human error or oversight. I know =
my
> dictionary has some errors in it >that I might never find, such is the
> downside of compiling it oneself without having others check it.
> >
>
> That's the upside to using your dictionary for the WOTD, you get to slowl=
y
> share it with the masses and if there's an error or omission, they'll be
> quick to point it out.
> WRT {wovmoHwI'} I think De'vID 's notation of "device" works a bit better
> than "lamp" simply because "device" sounds more informative and "lamp"
> seems too restrictive.
>
>
> ~naHQun
>
>
> --
> ~Michael Roney, Jr.
> Freelance Translator
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>=C2=A0 To keep you (or in the case of publicly searcha=
ble records, others) from using the wrong word, you add a note.<div>=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 qurgh went with "lamp".</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
De'vID went with "device".<br><br></div><div>ok,this is a pe=
rfect explanation. now,i understand. thanks<br><br>> Since we are genera=
lly using databases for this function, I=E2=80=99d just like=20
to point out that we can put personal annotations into fields OTHER than
the definition<br><br></div><div>i believe this would be great,especially =
for beginners who struggle to figure out how things work ; furthermore it w=
ould help people avoid the pitfall of learning something "corrupt"=
;,which would be of great difficulty to "unlearn" later on. I had=
a teacher in university,who would constantly remind us that "the huma=
n brain has no trouble learning something new,no matter how difficult it ma=
y be. still,it has the greatest trouble of changing something it has alread=
y learned".<br><br></div><div>qunnoQ<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:46 PM, lo=
jmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:l=
ojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:=
break-word"><div>Since we are generally using databases for this function, =
I=E2=80=99d just like to point out that we can put personal annotations int=
o fields OTHER than the definition, and we=E2=80=99ll be less likely to cor=
rupt the data. Normal dictionaries site sources. It=E2=80=99s the only way =
to resolve eventual arguments about definitions for a canon-based language.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Look in the archives for the origin of the Klingo=
n word for =E2=80=9Carmpit=E2=80=9D, if you want to know why this is import=
ant.</div><br><div>
<div><div>lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh</div><div>Door Re=
pair Guy, Retired Honorably</div></div><div><br></div><br>
</div>
<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div>On Oct 23, 2=
015, at 10:27 AM, Michael Roney, Jr. <<a href=3D"mailto:nahqun@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">nahqun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><d=
iv><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:12 AM=
, qurgh lungqIj <<a href=3D"mailto:qurgh@wizage.net" target=3D"_blank">q=
urgh@wizage.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>> The canon is the same for everyo=
ne, although everyone's interpretations of them might not be identical.=
=C2=A0<br>><br><br>I think there's a divide on whether or not the pa=
q'batlh is canon. Perhaps even Talk Now.<div>Besides those, I think we&=
#39;re all on the same page.</div><div><br></div><div>>There's also =
the possibility of errors or omissions in dictionaries people compile thems=
elves due to simple human error or oversight. I know my dictionary has some=
errors in it >that I might never find, such is the downside of compilin=
g it oneself without having others check it.=C2=A0</div><div>></div><div=
><br></div><div>That's the upside to using your dictionary for the WOTD=
, you get to slowly share it with the masses and if there's an error or=
omission, they'll be quick to point it out.</div><div>WRT {wovmoHwI=
9;} I think De'vID 's notation of "device" works a bit be=
tter than "lamp" simply because "device" sounds more in=
formative and "lamp" seems too restrictive.<br><br><br>~naHQun</d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br>--<br>~Michael Roney, Jr.<br>Freelance Translato=
r</div></div></div></div><span class=3D"">
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