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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country Klingon
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Holt)
Sat Oct 10 08:42:19 2015
From: David Holt <kenjutsuka@live.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 07:42:00 -0500
In-Reply-To: <CAP7F2cJDWkGD=0GErCUGChG74qdhYLKjmb0vz=9N3_qi1NSV5w@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org
>> HaqwI' JIH je. qam HaqwI' jIH. ro HaqwI' SoH'a'? =
> =
> with the help of the boQwI app i think that this means : "i'm a surgeon =
> too. a foot surgeon. are you a trunk/body surgeon ?" =
maj!
> i would like to give the reply "no,i'm an orthopaedic surgeon". So =
> maybe i would say : "Qo'. ghIv HaqwI' jiH." =
Check what boQwI' says about {Qo'} as an exclamation. =A0It cannot be used =
to answer a "yes" or "no" question. =A0It is used when somebody tells you t=
o do something and you refuse. =A0Now look up {ghobe'}. =A0The sentence whi=
ch follows that was very well done. =A0majQa'!
> @ Qov (robyn) : Duj logh SoH !=A0
Perfect use of {SoH}! =A0Though I think the other words may have gotten a l=
ittle mixed up.
When you put two nouns together (like {ghIv HaqwI'} and {Duj logh}), the se=
cond noun is the thing being described and the first noun modifies it in so=
me way. =A0A common relationship between the two is that the first noun is =
owner of the second noun. =A0But it may also be that the second noun is mad=
e out of the first noun. =A0Or that second noun is the type used by the fir=
st noun. =A0Other more complicated relationships are possible, but the poin=
t it's a first-noun kind of second-noun. =A0By the way, this is exactly how=
we do it in English, too and when you are putting two nouns together you c=
an often (but not always) just put the English and Klingon in the same orde=
r (for possession we add 's in English, but nothing in Klingon). =A0In thos=
e cases where that is not clear, it helps to reverse the order of the words=
and insert "of".
{janSIy SID} is "Johnshee's patient" (ownership). =A0{baS Haqtaj} is a "ste=
el scalpel" (made of). =A0{tlhIngan Duj} is a "Klingon ship" (used by). =A0=
{yIn Quj} is the "game of life" (more complicated relationship).
So I am a "foot kind of surgeon", a "foot surgeon", or a "surgeon of the fo=
ot". =A0You are a "limb kind of surgeon", a "limb surgeon", or a "surgeon o=
f the limbs". =A0And you've described Qov as a "ship kind of outer space", =
a "ship outer space", or an "outer space of a ship". =A0You might have inst=
ead meant {Duj} to mean "instinct", but I'm proceeding under the assumption=
that you meant to call Qov a "space ship". =A0If that's the case, then you=
're saying she's a kind of ship and the kind of ship is a space kind. =A0Th=
e descriptor goes first followed by the thing being described. =A0So {logh =
Duj} is "space ship".
nav paq jIH'a'?
janSIy =
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