[101075] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Beginners corner
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Fri Aug 14 14:30:47 2015
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:30:30 -0400
From: SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
In-Reply-To: <ACF6622D959A8842A81E4471BA56A7E05C33E6E2@xm-mbx-04-prod.ad.uchicago.edu>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org
On 8/14/2015 9:57 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
> ghItlhpu' Maxim, jatlh:
>>>>> {tulghach yIlon naDev 'elwI'pu'}
>
> jang De'vID, jatlh:
>>>> "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
>>>> * Does one "abandon" hope in Klingon?
>
> jang je Voragh, jatlh:
>>> TIP: If you can't find a good noun, try rephrasing with a verb: *{tulHa'choH}.
>
> QeS:
>> petulHa''eghmoHchu' tlhIH, 'o 'elwI'pu'
>> "Cause yourselves to completely lose hope, O those who enter"
>
> Or you can abandon the idea of abandoning hope:
>
> naDev 'elwI'pu''e', petultaHQo'!
> Those who enter here, do not continue to hope!
>
> Or even simpler:
>
> naDev petulQo'!
> Don't hope here!
"Abandon hope" strongly implies a change of state from hope to
hopelessness; {-choH} is called for here. Also, though I don't speak
Italian, the phrase is commonly translated "abandon ALL hope" or "ALL
hope abandon," which suggests {-chu'} is useful.
petulHa'choHchu' naDev 'elwI'
here-enterers, begin to completely un-hope!
--
SuStel
http://trimboli.name
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