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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] ghuy'cha'! Welsh Government Issues
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fiat Knox)
Sat Jul 11 06:48:34 2015
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 10:44:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Klingon Mailing List <tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
In-Reply-To: <001801d0bb9a$625c2cb0$27148610$@flyingstart.ca>
Reply-To: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
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The interview was hilarious. They were practicing their pronunciation, quot=
ing taH pagh taHbe', and I told them not to worry about getting it wrong at=
first because if there was a Klingon coming at you swinging a betleH it pr=
obably wouldn't be because he was going to critique your pronunciation.
I pronounced taH pagh taHbe' for them correctly. I'm afraid I could not do =
a decent Christopher Plummer voice, but I tried my best.
And at the end, I cheekily offered my services to the Welsh Assembly Govern=
ment as a consultant in all future communications, because you might as wel=
l pay someone to get it right as use Bing, which will only give you gibberi=
sh laced with profanities.
On Saturday, 11 July 2015, 8:58, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca> =
wrote:
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Section1 {}#yiv4582597153 So how did it go? =C2=A0From: Robyn Stewart [mail=
to:robyn@flyingstart.ca]=20
Sent: July 10, 2015 11:59
To: 'Fiat Knox'; 'Klingon Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] ghuy'cha'! Welsh Government Issues Communique P=
artly In Klingon =C2=A0I=E2=80=99d give the exact translation from TKD and =
then the =E2=80=9Cunsettling communique=E2=80=9D-type explanation and then =
go like you=E2=80=99re going to suggest an actual English translation and t=
rust the interviewer to cut you off before you say it.
Of course you=E2=80=99ll be ready with a CORRECT version of the intended tl=
hIngan Hol and information on NOT trusting machine translation for any lang=
uage.
Qapla=E2=80=99! =C2=A0From: Fiat Knox [mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk]=20
Sent: July 10, 2015 6:09
To: Klingon Mailing List
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] ghuy'cha'! Welsh Government Issues Communique Partl=
y In Klingon =C2=A0http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-minis=
ters-were-asked-information-9624682 =C2=A0The Welsh Government ... my gover=
nment ... were asked a somewhat naive question on UFOs at Cardiff Airport. =
=C2=A0The reply from Llywodraeth Cymru is this.
jang vIDa je due luq. =E2=80=98ach ghotvam=E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 QI=E2=80=99ya=
H-devolved qaS
I have been conscripted to discuss this in a Radio Wales broadcast tonight,=
17:20, British Summer Time. When I come to the QI'yaH bit, that's where ma=
tters are going to get complicated. =C2=A0Good job they didn't respond with=
drawings of crop circles, eh? Actually, maybe they could have tried that f=
irst ... =C2=A0+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ =C2=A0
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=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436611098359_8395" dir=3D"ltr">The interview was hilariou=
s. They were practicing their pronunciation, quoting <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1436611098359_9420">taH pagh taHbe'</b>, and I told them not to worry about=
getting it wrong at first because if there was a Klingon coming at you swi=
nging a <b>betleH</b> it probably wouldn't be because he was going to criti=
que your pronunciation.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436611098359_8596" di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436611098359_8597" dir=3D"ltr"=
>I pronounced <b>taH pagh taHbe'</b> for them correctly. I'm afraid I could=
not do a decent Christopher Plummer voice, but I tried my best.<br></div><=
div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436611098359_9225" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1436611098359_9226" dir=3D"ltr">And at the end, I cheekily of=
fered my services to the Welsh Assembly Government as a consultant in all f=
uture communications, because you might as well pay someone to get it right=
as use Bing, which will only give you gibberish laced with profanities.<br=
></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1436611098359_9342"><span></span></div><br><=
br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style=3D"display: block;=
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f; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On=
Saturday, 11 July 2015, 8:58, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca> w=
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#yiv4582597153 </style><div><div class=3D"yiv4582597153WordSection1"><div c=
lass=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">So how di=
d it go?</span></div><div class=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class=3D"yiv4582597153yqt7617323=
203" id=3D"yiv4582597153yqt61650"><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top=
:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div class=3D"yiv458259715=
3MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span=
></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"EN-US"> Robyn Stewart [mailt=
o:robyn@flyingstart.ca] <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> July 10, 2015 11:59=
<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> 'Fiat Knox'; 'Klingon Mailing List'<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] ghuy'cha'! Welsh Government Is=
sues Communique Partly In Klingon</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv=
4582597153MsoNormal"> </div><div class=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">I=E2=80=99d give the exact translation from =
TKD and then the =E2=80=9Cunsettling communique=E2=80=9D-type explanation a=
nd then go like you=E2=80=99re going to suggest an actual English translati=
on and trust the interviewer to cut you off before you say it.<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none">Of course you=E2=80=99ll be ready with a CORRECT v=
ersion of the intended tlhIngan Hol and information on NOT trusting machine=
translation for any language.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Qapla=
=E2=80=99!</span></div><div class=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><div style=3D"border:none;bord=
er-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div class=3D"yiv458=
2597153MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"EN-US">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"EN-US"> Fiat Knox [<a =
rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk">mailto:fiat_knox@yaho=
o.co.uk</a>] <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> July 10, 2015 6:09<br clear=3D=
"none"><b>To:</b> Klingon Mailing List<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [T=
lhingan-hol] ghuy'cha'! Welsh Government Issues Communique Partly In Klingo=
n</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal"> </di=
v></div><div><div class=3D"yiv4582597153yqt7617323203" id=3D"yiv4582597153y=
qt44412"><div id=3D"yiv4582597153yui_3_16_0_1_1436533286939_2337"><div clas=
s=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D""><=
a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.wale=
sonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-ministers-were-asked-information-962468=
2">http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-ministers-were-asked-=
information-9624682</a></span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv4582597153yui_3_16_=
0_1_1436533286939_2486"><div class=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal" style=3D"marg=
in-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D""> </span></div></=
div><div id=3D"yiv4582597153yui_3_16_0_1_1436533286939_2415"><div class=3D"=
yiv4582597153MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"">The We=
lsh Government ... <i>my</i> government ... were asked a somewhat naive que=
stion on UFOs at Cardiff Airport.</span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv458259715=
3yui_3_16_0_1_1436533286939_2416"><div class=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=3D""> </spa=
n></div></div><div id=3D"yiv4582597153yui_3_16_0_1_1436533286939_2417"><div=
class=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=
=3D"">The reply from Llywodraeth Cymru is this.</span></div></div><h2 id=3D=
"yiv4582597153yui_3_16_0_1_1436533286939_2418" style=3D"background:white;">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">jang vIDa je due luq. =E2=80=98ach ghotva=
m=E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 QI=E2=80=99yaH-devolved qaS</span><span style=3D""></s=
pan></h2><div id=3D"yiv4582597153yui_3_16_0_1_1436533286939_2419"><div clas=
s=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"">I=
have been conscripted to discuss this in a Radio Wales broadcast tonight, =
17:20, British Summer Time. When I come to the <b>QI'yaH</b> bit, that's wh=
ere matters are going to get complicated.</span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv4=
582597153yui_3_16_0_1_1436533286939_2699"><div class=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D""> </span></div></div=
><div id=3D"yiv4582597153yui_3_16_0_1_1436533286939_2776"><div class=3D"yiv=
4582597153MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"">Good job =
they didn't respond with drawings of crop circles, eh? Actually, maybe they=
could have tried that first ...</span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv4582597153=
yui_3_16_0_1_1436533286939_2436"><div class=3D"yiv4582597153MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D""> </span></div></div><div><di=
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