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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] no' Hol & Paramount Hol in Bing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Thu Mar 5 23:15:20 2015
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: ghunchu'wI' <qunchuy@alcaco.net>, Klingon language email discussion forum
<tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 04:14:56 +0000
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Fortunately, I don't believe =ABqab jIH ngIl=BB and =ABSoS jIH batlh SoH=BB=
have ever been canonized, so there's no need to add/keepthem at all.
Is =ABjIH Doq=BB canon? I know it's from TNG, but I can't recall it being m=
entioned in any works by Okrand.
It might be worth adding =ABtaH pagh taHbe'=BB as "To be or not to be", sin=
ce that "translation" only makes sense as a fixed phrase.
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From: ghunchu'wI' <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 4:39:44 AM
To: Klingon language email discussion forum
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] no' Hol & Paramount Hol in Bing
On Mar 5, 2015, at 8:11 PM, "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca<mailto:ro=
byn@flyingstart.ca>> wrote:
... there exist several fixed expressions that probably SHOULD be in the le=
xicon. The Bing team has a way to mark these as non-productive, like Engli=
sh "lest we forget" and "if it ain't broke don't fix it." Help me compile a=
list of such expressions.
Qab jIH ngIl ("quab jee nageel") "face me if you dare" from the SonchIy rit=
ual [TNG "Reunion"]
SoS jIH batlh SoH ("so's jee bat-leth so") "Mother, I honor you" from the r=
uStay [TNG "The Bonding"]
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Fortunately, I don't believe =ABqab jIH ngIl=BB and =ABSoS jIH batlh SoH=BB=
have ever been canonized, so there's no need to add/keepthem at all.<br>
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Is =ABjIH Doq=BB canon? I know it's from TNG, but I can't recall it being m=
entioned in any works by Okrand.<br>
<br>
It might be worth adding =ABtaH pagh taHbe'=BB as "To be or not to be&=
quot;, since that "translation" only makes sense as a fixed phras=
e.<br>
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<div>On Mar 5, 2015, at 8:11 PM, "Robyn Stewart" <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Qab jIH ngIl ("quab jee nageel") "face me if you dare&q=
uot; from the SonchIy ritual [TNG "Reunion"]</div>
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<div>SoS jIH batlh SoH ("so's jee bat-leth so") "Mother, I h=
onor you" from the ruStay [TNG "The Bonding"]</div>
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