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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Month sentences
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com)
Fri Feb 27 11:46:41 2015
From: lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 11:46:15 -0500
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Oh, and just a note about strange moon math:
People might commonly look up at the Moon and say, =E2=80=9COh, that=E2=80=
=99s a half moon,=E2=80=9D because it=E2=80=99s half illuminated. Nope. =
That=E2=80=99s either a first quarter moon or a third quarter moon, =
because the fraction refers to the life cycle of the moon=E2=80=99s =
illumination, not to the percentage of illumination. So, the boundary =
between waxing quarter and waxing gibbous is First Quarter, and the =
boundary between waning gibbous and waning quarter is Third Quarter. =
There is no =E2=80=9CHalf Moon=E2=80=9D, unless you are referring to the =
Full Moon, which technically is a Half Moon, but nobody calls it that, =
because, well, it=E2=80=99s fully illuminated.
It=E2=80=99s not weirder than having clocks that go from 1 to 12 to =
count the number of hours in a 24 hour day, or having months of a fixed =
number of days each year, but vary among themselves irregularly between =
30 and 31 days, except for February, which is 28 days, except for Leap =
Years, during which it=E2=80=99s 29 days long=E2=80=A6
Most time-related math is weird, especially at warp speed.
lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh
Retired Door Repair Guy
> On Feb 27, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> =
wrote:
>=20
> That=E2=80=99s why I like these two puns: they=E2=80=99re clever, not =
too obvious (as the questions in this thread indicate), and apt (since =
phases of the moon relate to months).
> =20
> Voragh
> =20
> From: lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com <mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com> =
[mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com <mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>]=20
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:23 AM
>=20
> After a New Moon (the dark one), when the moon=E2=80=99s phase is =
increasing the size of the illuminated part of the moon each night, it =
is =E2=80=9Cwaxing=E2=80=9D. It continues to wax until a full moon, =
after which it =E2=80=9Cwanes=E2=80=9D. So, the phases are typically =
called:
> =20
> New Moon
> Waxing quarter
> Waxing gibbous
> Full Moon
> Waning gibbous
> Waning quarter
> New Moon
> =20
> This falls under =E2=80=9CStuff I learned from an iPad app=E2=80=9D.
> =20
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca =
<mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca>> wrote:
> =20
> Yes, I have waQ and wen in the sentences, but you=E2=80=99ll have to =
explain the puns for me. I=E2=80=99ve been saying them over and over =
again and nothing twigs. I think I initially remembered =E2=80=98way =
back when=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a whack of time from now=E2=80=99.
> =20
> - Qov
> =20
> From: Steven Boozer [mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu =
<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>]=20
> Sent: February 26, 2015 6:36
>=20
> Robyn Stewart:
> > Here=E2=80=99s what I have so far to retrain the Hub system on =
=E2=80=9Cmonth.=E2=80=9D...
> I don=E2=80=99t remember if you mentioned it before, but don=E2=80=99t =
forget to add {waQ} and {wen} to the mix:
>=20
> IMO, HQ 8.3: Another pair of words of this type refers to months: =
{wen} =E2=80=9Cmonths ago=E2=80=9D, {waQ} =E2=80=9Cmonths from now=E2=80=9D=
. Thus, {loSwen} is =E2=80=9Cfour months ago=E2=80=9D and {wa'waQ} is =
=E2=80=9Cnext month=E2=80=9D (one month from now).=20
>=20
> They=E2=80=99re two of my favorite Okrandian puns/mnemonics.
> =20
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">Oh, and just a note about strange moon =
math:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">People =
might commonly look up at the Moon and say, =E2=80=9COh, that=E2=80=99s =
a half moon,=E2=80=9D because it=E2=80=99s half illuminated. Nope. =
That=E2=80=99s either a first quarter moon or a third quarter moon, =
because the fraction refers to the life cycle of the moon=E2=80=99s =
illumination, not to the percentage of illumination. So, the boundary =
between waxing quarter and waxing gibbous is First Quarter, and the =
boundary between waning gibbous and waning quarter is Third Quarter. =
There is no =E2=80=9CHalf Moon=E2=80=9D, unless you are referring to the =
Full Moon, which technically is a Half Moon, but nobody calls it that, =
because, well, it=E2=80=99s fully illuminated.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s not weirder than having =
clocks that go from 1 to 12 to count the number of hours in a 24 hour =
day, or having months of a fixed number of days each year, but vary =
among themselves irregularly between 30 and 31 days, except for =
February, which is 28 days, except for Leap Years, during which it=E2=80=99=
s 29 days long=E2=80=A6</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Most time-related math is weird, especially at warp =
speed.</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh<div class=3D"">Retired =
Door Repair Guy</div>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 27, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Steven Boozer <<a =
href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" =
class=3D"">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);" class=3D"">That=E2=80=99s why I like these two puns: =
they=E2=80=99re clever, not too obvious (as the questions in this thread =
indicate), and apt (since phases of the moon relate to months).<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);" class=3D""> </span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Voragh<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);" class=3D""> </span></div><div style=3D"border-style: =
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padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
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223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com</a><span=
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a =
href=3D"mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 27, 2015 =
10:23 AM<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">After a New Moon (the dark one), when the =
moon=E2=80=99s phase is increasing the size of the illuminated part of =
the moon each night, it is =E2=80=9Cwaxing=E2=80=9D. It continues to wax =
until a full moon, after which it =E2=80=9Cwanes=E2=80=9D. So, the =
phases are typically called:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">New Moon<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Waxing quarter<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">Waxing gibbous<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Full Moon<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">Waning gibbous<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Waning quarter<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">New Moon<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">This falls under =E2=80=9CStuff I learned from an =
iPad app=E2=80=9D.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">On Feb 26, 2015, at =
5:36 PM, Robyn Stewart <<a href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Yes, I have waQ and wen in the sentences, but you=E2=80=99ll =
have to explain the puns for me. I=E2=80=99ve been saying them over and =
over again and nothing twigs. I think I initially remembered =E2=80=98way =
back when=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a whack of time from now=E2=80=99.</span><=
o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">- Qov</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: =
solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: =
1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""> </span></span><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Steven Boozer [<a href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>]<span =
class=3D"apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"apple-converted-space"> </span>February 26, 2015 6:36<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""> <span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Robyn Stewart:<br =
class=3D""></span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">> Here=E2=80=99s what I have so far to retrain the Hub =
system on =E2=80=9Cmonth.=E2=80=9D...</span><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">I =
don=E2=80=99t remember if you mentioned it before, but don=E2=80=99t =
forget to add {waQ} and {wen} to the mix:</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);" class=3D"">IMO, HQ 8.3: Another pair of words of this =
type refers to months: {wen} =E2=80=9Cmonths ago=E2=80=9D, {waQ} =
=E2=80=9Cmonths from now=E2=80=9D. Thus, {loSwen} is =E2=80=9Cfour =
months ago=E2=80=9D and {wa'waQ} is =E2=80=9Cnext month=E2=80=9D (one =
month from now).<span =
class=3D"apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></p><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">They=E2=80=99re two of =
my favorite Okrandian puns/mnemonics.</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0.5in 5pt 40.8pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span><span=
style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
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